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Rubber_Ducky122's avatar
5 years ago

Valkyrie is Overpowered

Valkyrie is way too powerful for a legend. First of all, her tactical. While her tactical doesn't do that much damage, and isn't too difficult to dodge, it applies not only a visual effect but an actual gameplay effect. Whenever you get hit by her tactical, your screen goes slightly blurry (like Bangalore's or Gibraltar's ultimate), except that you can't actually move very well. Your movement speed is significantly slowed, and even worse, mouse movement is also slowed. With this effect, it's almost as easy as shooting an AFK person, because they can't shoot back or move out of the way, which is way too powerful for a tactical. Take Fuse's tactical for example, it's quite similar, except his tactical does considerably less damage, is quite easy to dodge, and most of all does not apply any effects to the target (granted his tactical does kinda suck, but still). Worse even, her ultimate is the only legend's ability that allows the entire team to escape death so easily and quickly, and the only ability that can escape gatekeeping/choking. Any time you're in a bad position, you can just fly away with your whole team, as easy as that. I recently played a game where we ended up in a bad position three times, and every single time our Valkyrie just flew us away, and we ended up winning the game. This ability charges up way too quickly, and even with a much slower recharge time, it would still be quite overpowered. And it's not like her passive's bad, either. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but having a really powerful passive, tactical, and ultimate is a bit much. 

17 Replies

  • WreckingVi's avatar
    WreckingVi
    5 years ago
    @chiefthunderball She is beyond broken, Her ult should have never happened. Any time I like to use A jump tower was absolutely the dumbest ult they introduced to the game after Rev's ult.
  • iShurex's avatar
    iShurex
    5 years ago

    Imagine; Someone try to survive alone in ranked or casual but enemy team see you in the air and landing on your head. It is not like Bloodhound and Crypto. You survive against from Bloodhound and Crypto.

    Just remove scan ability from ultimate. It is not necessary and not fair.

    She is get ability from some legends and this is why she is unbalanced.

  • Her passive is OP as *beep* imo. She can get in and out of fights extremely easy compared to other Legends. And she can fly HIGH, like really high. Yes you hear it, but it doesn't matter. She flies up somewhere, and gets to decide the pace. Jumps down, shots, runs around the corner, and up again to heal, or not, or yes. I'd be happy with her using her shield as fuel for her passive tbo. I know this won't happen and is a bit much, but in any case, her passive is OP. Other legends have to use valuable resources to get away. Revenant can climb, and Horizon can shift around mid air, that still requires specific situations. Valk pretty much has her thing all the time.

  • davkin09's avatar
    davkin09
    New Adventurer
    4 years ago

    I like Valkyrie a lot, I don't play her but definitely see her huge benefit to the team.

    If I were to change her I would look to remove her stun ability from her tactical.

    Personally if more legends were like valkyrie in terms of power it would make apex much better.

    I'm a Rampart main and was worried that when she got her buff she would be overpowered. But in my opinion she does exactly what she should do in game and can't expect any less from her.

    Now we just need all Legends getting the Rampart treatment.

  • @CompleatBeetI disagree, she is indeed overpowered. She essentially has 2 passives and 2 tacticals, in addition to likely the best ultimate in the game. Survey beacons, pinging while flying, jetpack, missiles, and skyward dive.

    While you mention the fact that legends like pathfinder or horizon have the ability to gain good positioning, you forgot that these legends need to expend their tactical for their abilities, and then deal with the recharge timer. Valkyrie has the ability to gain good positioning whenever and wherever she wants with just her passive, and still have a super powerful tactical on hand on top of that. She can often reposition so many times during a fight that it lasts well over two minutes sometimes just chasing a valkyrie that won’t stay still.

    Speaking of her tactical, it can be used a lot quicker and easier than you make it out to be. And with the stun it’s like an instant arc star every 30 seconds. The problem is it can hit overtop cover, and if you don’t want to deal with the damage or the stun you have to leave that cover, exposing you to be shot super easily. And if you do take the damage, that’s a 3-second stun which makes for essentially a free kill on a stationary target, and even you stay behind cover it at least opens up the opportunity to be hard pushed, fighting a shield level worth of damage down vs. Valkyrie’s team.

    And her ultimate, while it can be cancelled yes, you barely need any cover to utilize it safely, and while you’re up there you get a free ping on enemy teams and can position your entire team advantageously instantly. Or when in a fight you can even just straight up leave if it’s not going well or if there’s a third party, or if the ring is closing in (the ring is never an issue with Valkyrie teams, which is yet another problem, it’s like the rest of the teams are playing handicapped). Not to mention she can scan survey beacons and then instantly rotate her entire team to the backside of the next ring, every ring.

    But the biggest problem is that all these abilities are on the same character. That’s too much for one legend to have, and her 98% pick rate in ALGS is proof of that. Gibby is now 70% by comparison, with no changes to his kit, and he was 100% last ALGS. This is essentially to say Valkyrie is proven way stronger and more valuable than Gibraltar, who used to be the best character in the game no question. But he hasn’t changed at all, Valkyrie just has that much of even better tools available.

  • Adendon's avatar
    Adendon
    4 years ago

    Truthfully, I love playing valk right now, but I will say that I easily stomp on other players with her more than any other. That being said, I could see this as both an issue with her kit being superior to everyone else's, and the fact that everyone else's kits need to be adjusted to her level. The simple solution would be to nerf her passive fuel usage and ult CD. The true solution would be to bring up other characters to her level, especially those with a similar kit/ playstyle.

  • Cocodriloiloilo's avatar
    Cocodriloiloilo
    Seasoned Hotshot
    4 years ago

    I agree, Valkyrie has too many abilities. I would eliminate the scan ability and put her in the offensive class, also I would reduce the amount of fuel in his jetts. With that I think it's perfect.

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