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4 years ago

valkyrie missile barrage is an "I Win" button.

Valkyrie missile barrage really needs to be ultimate, not a tactical. It's ridiculous at how fast the missiles launch, the range, the clustering and amount of damage and when they impact with a play...

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E9ine_AC

Hero+

4 years ago

@Mad_Professor86 I play against quite a lot of valk users. The tactical like most legends is easy to counter and see coming. It all boils down to how observant are you how quick are you to respond to the tactical. Its like bangs ult. You see the indicators on the ground then you know its time to run.

This is coming from someone who only does arena mode where im far more likely to be hit with them then the open battle royal modes. So if we can avoid them in there then people can adapt to avoid them period just as they do bangs ult.

Mad_Professor86

4 years ago

Yeah counter in a sense of treat her like mercy from overwatch, kill her first?
In the arena it might be easy to counter and get out of because there are no third parties, but in trios and ranked, you're fighting one squad then get third partied by another squad, it's hard to prioritizes who to kill first, it usually one that has the most immediate threat. Most of the time it's not very clear because there's so much chaos going on that when you see the indications of incoming missile attack, it's already too late to get out of the affecting area. If all three members of your squad get hit by valks missiles and assuming you weren't low on health before and you don't die to it, it's an easy win for their squad because they can wipe you in the 2 seconds of stun you get.

Literally it's an "I win" button!

E9ine_AC
Hero+
4 years ago
@Mad_Professor86 It does quite low damage to be honest. I have been hit full force with it before and i laughed. Gibby can run up and ult you third party with around the same impact timing. It does greater damage much more double the damage per bomb connected. As 1 missel from valk is only 20 damage and you can only be hit if positioned or countering by normally at most 3-4 times. Which is only 60 hp compared to say 3-4 gibby bombs hitting you for 160. So in terms of math its kinda like a knuckle cluster that stuns.
- Mad_Professor86
  4 years ago
  @E9ine_AC
  Again you're not being stunned. You can get out and dodge, plus the amount of warning time on gibbys and bangs ults is pretty high. It's not at the same level of valks, if you get hit by 3-4 of valks missiles you just got 60-80hp damage plus a stun-lock which will kill you.
  All I'm saying is it needs to be ult, if we're keeping the stun-lock. Other wise remove the stun and treat it like a knuckle cluster.
  - E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    4 years ago
    @Mad_Professor86Correct but if you go time it the time a gibby red circles are on the ground to the time they start landing on the ground you will see its not much different then valks timers of hers hitting the ground. Gibby and bangs ults also stun.