When will Respawn finally listen?
Solos needs to be added there is no question about it. You are truly robbing a large portion of your player base from being able to enjoy the game more fully. Its been over 2 years now and this is ST...
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@The7O2GuySolo mode actually made squads much better with a lot less solo droppers and players leaving the match very early which is a problem only getting worse as time goes on.
I'm not personally bothered about solos myself but if it improves the current mode i'm already in then i'm all for that and understand why people would just want to jump into an even 1v1 BR experience when the current format we have is atrocious for solo players. Given that we have very limited modes to play anyway then having more choice isn't necessarily a bad thing.
The argument that legends aren't balanced for solos has been recently proven wrong with all the changes to abilities since solo was last introduced.
You get the usual ''just find a squad'' excuse from those rejecting the idea but what about those that have a squad or family/friends that just aren't the same skill level? My little brother can't compete at all in my lobbies and i must currently drop him for those that can keep up or play solo squads with dead weights anyway thanks to the genius SBMM we currently have. If you don't want solo for yourself then that's fine but to not let others have a mode that won't effect you makes very little sense.
Also, ''the data'' that it has a negative effect on player retention was only collected during the Iron Crown event which had people leaving the game or not playing as much due to other grievances completely unrelated to solos and if they rereleased the LTM and the data was the same then that argument would hold more weight but until then.. Nope.
"The argument that legends aren't balanced for solos has been recently proven wrong with all the changes to abilities since solo was last introduced."
??? How do you get from that "changes to abilities since last solo LTM", to "that legends are unbalanced for solo mode is proven wrong"??
You also claim that the "negative data" collected from last solo LTM originated from "other grievances completely unrelated to solo" What makes you claim something like that? How do you even remotely know that this statement is true? Just curious. Because I presume that you realize that if you actually claim these things are proven and true, then you consequently also claim that Respawn are either incompetent of interpreting their own collected data OR that they are lying .
@BalladalidilaIt's been shown how abilities are more equal in regards to solo mode compared to how they were back then balance wise at least, with a few exceptions. You could even do that yourself.
How can they claim solo mode was the cause of lower player retention when the only time they had it implemented was when people were frustrated with the game and leaving in droves anyway. Without having it a second time to compare, the data is only being said to reinforce the point that they wanted to keep Apex a team based shooter before they introduced the LTM or if solos was popular. It's not part of their vision for the game, irrespective of what the community wants.
It was pretty unanimous back then in discussions both with friends and on the forum that squads was in a much better state with the addition of solos. For you to say that's not the case would make you a small exception and the damage badge is hardly the the only or even main reason people leave when knocked.Edit: Keeping my post the same to cover the points you edited out.
You didnt answer any of my questions. You just reiterated your exact same thing. "Its been shown", "It was pretty unanimous back then", "people were frustrated with the game and leaving in droves anyways (implied; not solos fault)". My point is that you present random statements as hard facts when I think you have no actual proof or statistics that can back it up.
I mean, I could agree that Respawn, since the solo LTM, continuously have reduced the "personal buffs" of certain Legends and reworked them to be more team-oriented/tactical. Pathfinders and Wraiths Q rework and the removal of Lifelines fast heal passive are some examples. But to go from that, to claim that solos would be more balanced now compared to back then, is far fetched at best.
But anyways; I would have nothing against if they had Solos as LTM one more time and I am actually dont really care if they added it even though I personally would never play it. What I am arguing against is all people who refuse to accept that Respawn probably knows how to interoperate the data and statistics to make the right call about solos than some random guy on an internet forum who think they "speak for the community", thats all.
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