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I am not really trying to argue whether or not solos would hurt the game or not since its impossible for me to say. "Hurting the game" are not my words; its Respawns explanation why they wont add solos as a permanent mode and they base it on their collected data from the Solo LTM, and the main reason was "player retention". I just tried to say that I could understand Respawns reasons for their motivation based on my own experience after the Solos LTM.
But I really understand that Apex much be a nightmare for people who wants to play like a team but for some reason cant or wont play with premades. I like to play solo when I just wanna frag and not care but I also have the luxury to pretty much ALWAYS have a premade team ready both for casual and ranked.
Let's do some critical thinking for a second, the statement from respawn had a vague "hurt new player retention" reasoning as well as talking about some legends being useless.
Hurt new player retention? It was a two week long optional event, how could that hurt new player retention anymore then any of the ridiculous LTMs that were added? No one was being forced to play solos, so what maybe que times were an issue? Since then they have added crossplay which drastically improved que times. So what arguement can be made about new player retention? Especially since they have never put solos back in as a test since that event 1.5 years ago.
Some legends being useless, the only one I can think of for this is lifeline. Her abilities are purely team based especially since they removed her fast healing. But other than her, what other legend is useless solo? I got a win on every legend during that event and lifeline was the only one that felt useless.
What about the ways it can improve this game? Why not at the very least add solos for a season and get some real data in? Since respawn refuses to punish players who hurt their team (outside of ranked) solos needs to be added.
Its great that you have groups that you can play with that are all on your level, I don't have that and its not from lack of trying. Just because you can play with a solid premade team, why should solos not be added for those who don't have that option? I never thought that I speak for the community as a whole, but I know a lot of people with this sentiment.
- 5 years ago
We all know many of the various advantages and disadvantages about having Solo.
BUT, it certainly would be great, so we don't have to rely on anyone but ourselves in the game, because we all know too how bad match making is in the game, and how bad playing with randoms can be.
Regardless of all the various advantages and disadvantages, Solo would be great, so we can just do it alone, no one else standing in our way!
- 5 years ago
Honestly, putting three randoms together in a team doesn't change the fact that a lot of randoms still play solo in the team-based mode.
Most of them are self-centered and do not care about teamwork, pinging or waiting more than two seconds to get revived.
That kind of behaviour is spreading like wildfire because there are no obligations towards your teammates and there are no repercussions when you're a d*ck and drop solo, leave early or trashtalk all the time.
- 5 years ago
Positives:
- Some playes will be happy temporarily. Others more permanently.
Negatives:
- Increased MM wait times even more because of split lobbies.
- Less stable connections to game servers because of longer queue times creating more exceptions to MM (see point #1)
- Solo lobbies would be reduced to just the core 2-3 meta characters
Also Respawn has been very clear about this and they said it's not gonna happen. Please stop with these posts.
- 5 years ago
Yeah, it is really this simple. How can you be against solo mode? Just don't play it if you don't want to play it, your mode doesn't disappear just because a solo mode appears. Everyone can be happy. The solo players get their turf, the team oriented players get theirs. What is the fuss?
Guess what? It also eliminates a portion of spam in this forum. The threads posted that complain about solo players leaving the match. And the threads posted to complain about wanting solo mode. Two birds with one stone.
Then we can complain more about Wraith nerf and how op the mastiff is.
- 5 years ago
@afishthatvapesExactly, solos would allow players to be alone and do their own thing wether thats kills,challenges, practicing, warming up, etc and would help eliminate the current issues with randoms in trios like solo droppers, teammates who wander off, rage quitters, etc
Note: solos won’t 100% fix some of these issues but I believe it would help a lot more than you would think and would also bring players back to the game who have decided to quit over the lack of solosduring a poll of 4000 votes on what modes players would like to see added to the game 58% of them said solos... im just going to round that to 60% for easy math and say 2400 of the 4000 players want solos added to the game... the other 1600 players are not forced to play it and can stick with duos/trios and its important to note just because 2400 of 4000 people want solos it doesn’t mean that they won’t play duos/trios anymore because I love playing with randoms some days while other times I just want to be solo a few hours its not like adding solos will eliminate half the playerbase from playing duos and trios
the argument that solos was ‘’bad for new player retention’’ is absolute bull... I was a fairly new player when solos was introduced (played about 1-2 months) and I could never get above 1-2 kills and a few hundred damage it was bad... while experiencing solos I learned how to fight for myself, had the opportunity to play with different weapon and different legends, I had a few games where I earned 3-5 kills and it felt like I gained a 20 bomb (i still have the screenshots) anyways once solos was removed and I went back to trios I went from being that random who would always get 0-2 kills and 0-400 damage a game to getting 3-5+ kills every game with 600-1k damage and imo that was a major improvement and if I never had that experience I am sure I wouldn’t of ever bought the next seasons battlepass and would of just uninstalled the game because getting 0 kills isn’t fun and sbmm wasn’t in the game yet so running into players with 4500-6k kills was so common
First Screenshot was during solos in august 2019, the next 2 were from September 2019 I look at them now and think they are cute but back then it was an amazing feeling lol the only time I get that happy now is when I get a 2k damage game
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