I'm a day 1 player who has played 13,000 games. Pretty sure I can spot a cheater.
if you have 13,000 games, played the game for multiple years, and still struggle against preds, I'm sorry but that's a "you problem." There isn't as many cheaters in this game as people think, it is greatly exaggerated.
You might be confusing controller aim assist, with an actual aim cheat.
I am not talking about predators. I am talking about account level 3 with 100 kills, a 20 kill badge who hits consecutive head shots to knock me and my entire squad in less time than any of us have to shoot 1 shot. No signs of any purchased content. I often spectate after they roll over my squad. They take forever to loot. They pause with no cover and magically ping a player no one can see. They don't move like a pred would move. No sliding, no jumping, no side to side. I have literally been in multiple squads where a random I am paired with has asked if he should turn on his cheats.
Some cheaters are good at hiding it. They set their aim bot to hit the body maybe 2 out of 4 times. That is still better than an average player. A very small percentage of the FPS population has an average hit accuracy north of 60%. Maybe 5% of all players. Yet, mysteriously, season 6 has a massive influx of new accounts that base on my actual observations, they hit everything they aim at and magically pop off with a 7 kill game. Is it possible that they are a seasoned FPS player with a new account, of course. However, if you look at the sheer number of players that fall into a situation I describe......no way. Mathematically and logically impossible.
You're actually wrong about accuracy being above 60%. Any aim practice, or click accuracy tool with a leaderboard will show you that 70-90% accuracy is average for most FPS players.
Low level accounts with high kills are smurfs.
Who knows, maybe I'm just good enough that I don't notice the small cheaters. For me, if I think someone is cheating I spectate them, and if they're snapping and shooting at targets behind walls, or hitting full clips at mid range, I hit the report (and they're often disconnected).
Recoil patterns in apex are predictable, meaning you can move your mouse to perfectly counteract the recoil. You can look up the patterns and learn these in about 30-1 hour.
Recoil on a controller is dramatically less than KBM, it's much easier to learn FPS on a controller for this reason, but the skill ceiling is much lower. You might just be facing controller players and getting tilted.
Not going to sit here and debate my points. Its pointless, as the devs at APEX clearly don't even review any of it. What I will say is that you comments and logic are flawed. Out of the assumed X millions of accounts purported to be active in APEX, what % of the population of apex players actually use an aim practice tool? You are also assuming that a good portion of those referenced on the "leaderboard" are APEX players. Lastly, you are assuming that those people using the tool aren't simply testing out their cheats.
Out of X millions of purported players of APEX, a very small % are using a tool to improve aim. On average, over a large enough sample size, average accuracy of X millions of accounts is most likely in the 15-20% average hit accuracy. Yet, I run into a disproportionate number of low account level players seemingly new the the game melting people with a unrealistic number of headshots and accuracy.
There are simple ways for Respawn to cut down on the number of obvious cheaters in the game. Make it a paid game and implement 2FA. Cheaters only spend money on their cheats. They also would have a much more difficult time establishing a new account after a ban if it was dependent on a mobile # for auth.
Of course Respawn would never do this. If they did, they would realize that the X millions of purported accounts are primarily multiple accounts created by cheaters or players that have previously been banned. They would lose a good portion of what they have reported as their account base and it would be even hard to fill a lobby. They had a good thing going, but they completely ruined it by bad decisions and allowing cheaters to proliferate within the game.
Returning to the original question of the post - "Why am I in APEX Predator lobbies?". The short answer is - if you aren't a diamond or predator yourself, you should almost never see a predator in your lobby.
As we all know, a predator is currently a top 500 player (in the entire game). In any given season, that means there are 500 possible predators active in the game at one time. If there are 2 million active accounts, that means you would have a 0.015% chance of having a predator in your pub lobby (assuming all 500 are actively playing the game and you yourself are not a master or predator). The chances that an average player should see a predator in a pub match under those assumptions is 1:15,000. The fact that average players are seeing them regularly means that there is either serious flaws in SBMM, or the player base has dwindled drastically.
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