Fair enough you get more kills on average or more damage on average when playing with randoms by WHY is it EVERY SINGLE GAME?????I'm tired of going up against people who can just lazer me across the map and i'm stuck in a 1v10 over here for the past 3 minutes while my teammates busy deciding if he wants an acog or a holo sight or busy looting. Either put them in their own lobbies against their own bot enemies or don't bother adding them to a lobby where i'm level 500 and like to fight, clearly they don't. So why match them with me????

@StarMystro Let me explain my type of teammates to you via sbmm:We drop in the city (they chose), I land across the bridge, loot up and get pushed from the busy house across the bridge, I drop and kill 5 people and clear the house out and all over the respawn beacon, they on the other hand died in the fight right next to the respawn beacon (after I've killed EVERYONE that they were fighting too), I instantly respawn them and they run back to their boxes, me on the other hand, i'm 2 feet away from them fighting 2 other players, manage to drop 1, almost drop the other and then I get downed, that encounter after reviving them lasted almost a minute, yet my teammates who were 2 feet away couldn't shoot 1 bullet for me? I have to shout down the mic for some help AFTER i'm dead? Please, SBMM is garbage and needs a completely new rework. I ended that game with 6 kills and and 1200 damage and they ended with one having 200 damage and 1 kill and the other with 67 damage and 0 kills.SBMM is garbage, it needs fixing once again.FYI, skilled players usually play aggressive, they don't play passive, so that statement there is false.

i belive a lot of people smurfing becouse the SBMM is so badWhat other Chance do you have ? When you play with your Main Account at casual game and loese always vs predatorsYou can do what you want. Good teamwork, taktic, good position play. At the end the Predators finish you in 2 secoundsIf you smurfing you have "normal" players, with level like 100 to 300 with 2k hammer and not 4 k hammer and 20 kill bombI think, if they change sbmm back to season 3. Season 3 i had never this Problems. The most people stop smurfing

@MoNosDirtyGaming I mean... I've won some great games with "double-digit" leveled teammates -Solely because they followed directions and played more cautiously and not aggressively- as more skilled players are used to. Playing to a teammates strengths can be far superior than forcing them into situations they're not overly familiar with, or comfortable dealing with. Yes, I know if you're playing the game it's typically the goal to get better at every facet, but some players aren't that devoted- and that's okay! I know you mentioned you'd prefer if they were in their own league, but it feels good to be the Hero now and again no...? Sometimes I'll use a less-skilled player as a decoy... Sounds mean I know, but I'll play close to my teammate while watching for enemies to target them (as big of a target as they are...) then fire on an enemy that is focusing fire on my teammate- giving me a free shot/kill.

"...not aggressively- as more skilled players are used to." Un-skilled players tend to play "not aggressively- as more skilled players are used to." I was referring to lower level players, sorry. But yeah, it seems like you caught one of those unlucky scenarios I'm all too familiar with. Where all you need is just a little help- just a little! But sometimes they can't deliver... Although you gotta admit, sometimes there are some sad moments where even level 500 (or the One-hit-Wonder players with 5,000 kills with One Legend) make some nasty mistakes. And I'm not talking about missing a few shots- I mean bad tactical decisions.That instance you relayed is a sad one indeed. I remember one time, I revived a teammate during a firefight and an enemy spotted us just as they were revived back up. But instead of combining two guns vs one... they run away (To heal) and get shot in the back where they could've just killed the fellow who was awfully low on health. Sad moments...

@StarMystro I believe the word you are looking for is passive-aggressive, or slow. Pro players have quick thinking skills. It's not really "one of those unlucky scenarios" if this happened 5 games in a row did it? lmao come on dude, sbmm is garbage. I usually ALWAYS have to carry my squad anyway, regardless of who they are or how skilled they appear to be.Today there as a master tier player in my team, dude took wraith which I wanted to use, we land at market and he gets dropped 4x in a row, i have to kill all 5 people AGAIN, and fail to kill the last wraith due to the third player rage quitting and this supposed "Master" player not being able to down 1 dude?This is killing the game off and slowly murdering it.

Why does SBMM make it so i have to carry EVERY SQUAD IM IN?

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StarMystro
5 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming I mean... I've won some great games with "double-digit" leveled teammates -Solely because they followed directions and played more cautiously and not aggressively- as more skilled players are used to. Playing to a teammates strengths can be far superior than forcing them into situations they're not overly familiar with, or comfortable dealing with. Yes, I know if you're playing the game it's typically the goal to get better at every facet, but some players aren't that devoted- and that's okay!
I know you mentioned you'd prefer if they were in their own league, but it feels good to be the Hero now and again no...? Sometimes I'll use a less-skilled player as a decoy... Sounds mean I know, but I'll play close to my teammate while watching for enemies to target them (as big of a target as they are...) then fire on an enemy that is focusing fire on my teammate- giving me a free shot/kill.
MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@StarMystro Let me explain my type of teammates to you via sbmm:

We drop in the city (they chose), I land across the bridge, loot up and get pushed from the busy house across the bridge, I drop and kill 5 people and clear the house out and all over the respawn beacon, they on the other hand died in the fight right next to the respawn beacon (after I've killed EVERYONE that they were fighting too), I instantly respawn them and they run back to their boxes, me on the other hand, i'm 2 feet away from them fighting 2 other players, manage to drop 1, almost drop the other and then I get downed, that encounter after reviving them lasted almost a minute, yet my teammates who were 2 feet away couldn't shoot 1 bullet for me? I have to shout down the mic for some help AFTER i'm dead? Please, SBMM is garbage and needs a completely new rework. I ended that game with 6 kills and and 1200 damage and they ended with one having 200 damage and 1 kill and the other with 67 damage and 0 kills.

SBMM is garbage, it needs fixing once again.

FYI, skilled players usually play aggressive, they don't play passive, so that statement there is false.
StarMystro
5 years ago
"...not aggressively- as more skilled players are used to."
Un-skilled players tend to play "not aggressively- as more skilled players are used to." I was referring to lower level players, sorry. But yeah, it seems like you caught one of those unlucky scenarios I'm all too familiar with. Where all you need is just a little help- just a little! But sometimes they can't deliver... Although you gotta admit, sometimes there are some sad moments where even level 500 (or the One-hit-Wonder players with 5,000 kills with One Legend) make some nasty mistakes. And I'm not talking about missing a few shots- I mean bad tactical decisions.
That instance you relayed is a sad one indeed. I remember one time, I revived a teammate during a firefight and an enemy spotted us just as they were revived back up. But instead of combining two guns vs one... they run away (To heal) and get shot in the back where they could've just killed the fellow who was awfully low on health. Sad moments...
MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@StarMystro I believe the word you are looking for is passive-aggressive, or slow. Pro players have quick thinking skills. It's not really "one of those unlucky scenarios" if this happened 5 games in a row did it? lmao come on dude, sbmm is garbage. I usually ALWAYS have to carry my squad anyway, regardless of who they are or how skilled they appear to be.

Today there as a master tier player in my team, dude took wraith which I wanted to use, we land at market and he gets dropped 4x in a row, i have to kill all 5 people AGAIN, and fail to kill the last wraith due to the third player rage quitting and this supposed "Master" player not being able to down 1 dude?

This is killing the game off and slowly murdering it.
StarMystro
5 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming Some days are just those days for players though. I was getting sluggish for like a whole week and was almost thinking, "I just don't got it anymore...". I mean, it's like flipping a two-sided coin; There's always a chance for it to land every time on only one side. But... I could be wrong, perhaps there are some kinks in the system that could be worked out?
Ahh "passive-aggressive" yeah that probably fits it good. Although it helps to deliberately be a little slow sometimes! Trust me, even walking (strafing) instead of sprinting can be so much more useful during a shootout or before an engagement. It's a lot quieter. Sometimes, I'll poke some at one enemy, take cover- but not stay there, I'll strafe (quietly walk) to another end. Many times I'll hear a player way before I see 'em. Except for Octane, I'll hear him but he's so fast he's already there...
MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@StarMystro Honestly I felt the same way, was wondering why I couldn't kill people anymore, it was due to the no-reg issue hitting the R99 as well as other guns. Made the R99 feel weak as hell in my eyes. Teammates nowadays are just useless though, makes me favour using caustic over any other legend because I can support myself with his traps.
Sarrgeras
5 years ago
Everyone needs to troll around, just make accounts and troll every single game you run into than report players for flaming you, stop caring about carrying report everyone loot for 10 minutes feed enemy with purple armor, jump from maps in ranked do every single opposite to what you are doing now, do not spend money invest cash into other games
MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@Sarrgeras But that's no fun lol.
Flashshark1980
5 years ago
@StarMystro wrote:
"...not aggressively- as more skilled players are used to."
Un-skilled players tend to play "not aggressively- as more skilled players are used to." I was referring to lower level players, sorry. But yeah, it seems like you caught one of those unlucky scenarios I'm all too familiar with. Where all you need is just a little help- just a little! But sometimes they can't deliver... Although you gotta admit, sometimes there are some sad moments where even level 500 (or the One-hit-Wonder players with 5,000 kills with One Legend) make some nasty mistakes. And I'm not talking about missing a few shots- I mean bad tactical decisions.
That instance you relayed is a sad one indeed. I remember one time, I revived a teammate during a firefight and an enemy spotted us just as they were revived back up. But instead of combining two guns vs one... they run away (To heal) and get shot in the back where they could've just killed the fellow who was awfully low on health. Sad moments...
Sounds like you are in the completely wrong lobby!
Maybe you stop makeing one smurf after the other?
If you open smurf account you WILL 100% play with lower players!
sound like you are smurfing man... Just stop it and you wil lget to the right lobby
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming I agree the skill base match making if applied to pug needs hecka work. Fact im 500 and such being teamed with level 100 or below is not cool for even those on my team facing people who sweat like i do. They panic they miss shots.

Then you got the level 100 below who can just lazer you like you say across the map.Who are complete gods at the game. They need to stop smurfing and link accounts to emails with ip resitriction of 1 account per computer. They can already hardware read so this task should be fairly easy if only they would apply it. It is either sweat smurf or cheaters but im sick of them in my lobby, I want to play legit players in my range.