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@MoNosDirtyGaming Aahh now that's kinda silly... I usually see one or two I think, per-game. If you don't mind me asking; What Level and Rank are you? And do you play in pre-made teams and if so, how often? Also, what's the usual agenda in your average match? Do you make Top 3 very often? Or typically Top 7-15? And Kills, are there many game with, say, 7-10 kills? Or is it more like 1-5?
I ask because- for me personally: Despite having a lot of success- and for me, personally, I describe success as winning matches or getting Top 3. Even if I only get a single kill. But ya see, I'll switch it up- only a few games; And snag a big killstreak (7-12) and, if you'd trust me, it's not necessarily skill but just tactics or whatever you could call it.
What I'm getting at is: Maybe I'm tricking the system? I don't know what is used to "analyze" or "grade" a players' individual "skill", but I don't suffer any radical matches.
They're typically fair, In my opinion. Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones...?
- 6 years ago
@StarMystroLevel 656, rank 500. I don't really play in pre-mades I mostly play solo. I play for kills, playing for wins is boring unless its ranked. I push every single gunfight. I average around 7-18 kills per game lol.
- 6 years ago@MoNosDirtyGaming Ya see? I mean, I'm probably wrong, but what if that's what's calculating your matches- or at least, the majority of them? Ehh I don't know... If I were working behind the scenes I'm not sure how I'd calculate things into SBMM. You can't do just do Win/Lose rate, I don't think... Can't do just K/D Ratio... "Shots landed vs shots missed"? I purposely fire "warning shots" as a tactic...! And just surviving the whole match doesn't mean someone is a good "shooter". But they could be stealthy AND a good shooter...
Yup I can't wrap my brain around it. - 6 years ago@StarMystro You win 2 games and the lobbies get instantly filled with preds. Seems as though if you have "ttv" in your name you also get paired with lower skilled players most of the time, weird eh.
- 6 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming wrote:@StarMystroLevel 656, rank 500. I don't really play in pre-mades I mostly play solo. I play for kills, playing for wins is boring unless its ranked. I push every single gunfight. I average around 7-18 kills per game lol.
I think it's absolutely good and fair that you play against predators if you are this good!
Where is the problem?
You want sealclubbing back?
Also keep in mind that your teammates are at the same lobby, so you wont get any noobs in your team!
If there was no SBMM you could get much better OR much worse teammates...
Depends on luck then...
Sad to hear you do not play for wins and rush into every fight...
We wouldn't be good partners because I play for win only and keep save if possible!
You sound like a typical Battlefield player who wants fast espawns, much action and frags.
Glad you do not play in my lobby! That wouldn't work...
- 6 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming Ahh lordy it's happened!!! It's like I was infected with this deadly disease...! 7-8 Predators dropping from the skies... there wasn't anything we could do too! We had awsome Ring position, and they were sandwiched between TWO teams- yet they still win!? Had to be a pre-made with so much concentrated fire...
It's not every game but, it's so brutal when it comes about. Like it would be okay if it were only one or two teams that were "insane with anger" but there's so many of em in One match that; If one dies, another just rises.
My playstyle usually consists of taking advantage of the terrain/ring or surprise-knockdowns, but I can't compete in a fair "gridiron" shootout with players who're Waaay better than me.
- 6 years ago
@Flashshark1980 Listen dude, I never once said I cared if I was matched up against predators, I said my TEAMMATES are useless, learn to read. I'm also pretty sure there is nothing worse than having level 8 and 12 teammates on my team.
"Also keep in mind that your teammates are at the same lobby, so you wont get any noobs in your team!"
What?
We wouldn't be good partners because I play for win only and keep save if possible
Who cares what I DO? I play for fun, which is for kills, I could care less about wins. I could also care less about if you play for wins. I prefer not to hide like a rat.
You sound like a typical Battlefield player who wants fast espawns, much action and frags.
Glad you do not play in my lobby! That wouldn't work...
It wouldn't work because you're level 199, and in bronze 2 with almost 696 kills in total. You are the typical player who camps and is slow with everything, pinging, looting, shooting, movement, aiming, need I go on? Right then.
FYI If we were matched together I'd be carrying you, just like the rest of these useless teammates.
- 6 years ago
Maybe because everyone has to know by now that there’s no way to make SBMM for any Battle Royal game?
Ive said this before but you have to base sbmm on wins, And there are just too many different ways to rank up. You might not get top 10 much but kill lots of people. I might kill less people but place top 5 regularly. Another person might just be supporting like a monster, get nearly no kills, and make his team get champion a lot.
You might be really good at camping a zone until you are forced to move. I might be great at breaking camps. Someone else could be mobile always. Another person might just want to fight with their drop loot for a while. Another person might be an excellent looter. You may want to push the center. I might ride the field. Etc etc etc.
If you are playing solo and you are good, you have to adapt. And if you are really good, you’ll have to carry a lot because, well, you are better than most people.
i would start looking at it as a compliment to your skill at the game.
- 6 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming wrote:having level 8 and 12 teammates on my team.
So you are level 656 rank 500 and the skill based matchmaking paired you with a level 8 and a level 12 did I get that right?
And you play normal play? Not ranked....
Wow, I mean what does that say about your skilllevel?
There must be a completely low value in your stats, that triggers this.
Look at aour stats and tell me one or two value you are extremely unhappy with.
I am really interrested now!
Only other explanation is the others are smurf acounts and have extremly high skill values, but why do you have to carry them then?
So since they were bad players I assume their stats were bad, too.
But some values must be the same! Else you wont get into the same lobby!
MAybe we find this values! - 6 years ago@Flashshark1980 false I have KD 2.23 and I get paired with a guy that loots a building than spams Q as bloodhound pointing that same build as enemy has been there and writes in chat asking me whats wrong with me why am I not attacking that building with him. I am actually becoming educated about the overall state of human kind through SBMM
- 6 years ago
Having a high k/d ratio itself doesn’t mean your skill is necessarily higher than someone with a lower k/d but who places maybe higher, so he advances at the same rate as you tho.
Yes that one guy is an idiot. But again, there are many ways to win and why sbmm will never really work for this kind of game.
- 6 years ago@Flashshark1980 Stop assuming and commenting on my thread, you don't understand sbmm at all.
- 6 years ago
@MoNosDirtyGaming schrieb:
@Flashshark1980Stop assuming and commenting on my thread, you don't understand sbmm at all.Well then explain SBMM to me!
So far EA has released nothing about the true calculation, but you seem to know more?
- 6 years ago
This game already has a ranked mode so why don't they make SBMM in normal matches scale down to the lowest player instead of go up to the highest. I love to be able to play with my son without having to make a smurf account so he doesn't get destroyed by Predator and Diamond players constantly.
- 6 years ago
@NeonXXP schrieb:This game already has a ranked mode so why don't they make SBMM in normal matches scale down to the lowest player instead of go up to the highest. I love to be able to play with my son without having to make a smurf account so he doesn't get destroyed by Predator and Diamond players constantly.
Well if they scale down to the lowest player (your son) YOU destroy all others...
Thats easy math right?
So scaling down to lowest player of the premade is no option at all...
There would be a lot abuse of that function too!
In other games the lowest player is buffed or the strongest player nerfed.
But have no idea how you would do that in Apex...
- E9ine_AC6 years agoHero+@MoNosDirtyGaming Funny thing is I know how to fully manipulate the sbmm and bypass it all together and placed into noob lobbies. I dont do it as i dont find it fun wrecking new players verse streamers who think they are gods is where my fun comes in. I have told them it can fully be manipulated. As someone who spent a long long time on a exploit team all i do is try find the bugs and problems i reported this issue over a month ago. Which you may be seeing as im sure im not only one who figured it out.
- 6 years ago@E9ine_AC You referring to restarting the application as soon as you hear that sound in the lobby?
- E9ine_AC6 years agoHero+@MoNosDirtyGaming No a lot comes into play with SBMM I wont say much on it as I do not want it exploited new players are already being placed in lobbies with us. Be horrible to have them being placed with even more elite players who learn how to bypass.
- 6 years ago@E9ine_AC The only thing I can really think of that would severely affect it would be reverse boosting.
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