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SwaTSNiper242's avatar
3 years ago

Why is the ranked based off placement and not kills? SO Stupid.

The fact that placement out scores kills to me is the stupidest thing a shooting game can ever have in ranked. Thoughts?

25 Replies

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @XxColdFangxX

    I read this post a dozen times. And I wrote at least as many responses. Responses about not letting a GAME make you feel pressured. Responses about the toxicity of other players, about the toxicity of rank ladders themselves. About the value, or lack, of what it is that rank systems produce, how they manipulate and torture players, how they warp behaviors, both in-game and on comms. About how games should be fun. About the complete worthlessness of grinding a game. And also, of course, about how a win-based rp system is inherently superior IF we can agree that winning is the object of the game. But even I have to admit that while it's AN object of the game, it isn't the ONLY object of the game.

    No, I see what you're saying. All I can really say, at the end of it all, is that if you climb on a rank ladder then &^%$ will happen to you. And &^%$ is what you will all too often be made to feel like. Ranking system valuing one playstyle over another, or one behavior over another, is nothing new. Games changing what their rank systems value is also nothing new. They expect us to adapt or die. It's their show, my friend. We just play here.

    To me everything you're describing is a reason to get off the ladder, but I appreciate that you have enough fight left in you to resist the new system. For the record, while I agree in principle that the system should favor wins over any other factor, I believe even more strongly that they should not make wholesale changes to rank calculation after doing it differently for the first twelve seasons. I despise inconsistency as much as anything else in this game.

    Best of luck.

  • @reconzero
    Oh I agree, games shouldn't make you feel pressured, but that's also one of those unavoidable things in games like apex.
    If you don't want to feel pressured you either know how when to leave, know how to ignore it, or, go play minecraft.
    Hence why I don't play ranked very much. I don't like feeling pressured. When I do play ranked it's because I'm trying to use it as a measuring system to see if I'm improving any and because I'm hoping for a more even lobby than what I get in pubs.
    I don't play br hardly ever because I hate the unevenness of the matches and the third party bs, but from what I recall of the previous rank system..it wasn't good, definitely needed improving, but it was better from what they have now.
  • @E9ine_AC It is a battle royale game where last team standing is rewarded. That is the main rule.

    Today I had a game where we had action in the beginning but in the end 2nd and 3rd teams were fighting too close to the storm. Our team won without a shot after we got to the top 5.

    It was odd but as far as game rules go teams have to consider risking the storm damage or loose.
  • @SwaTSNiper242 Respawn has said it is because it is a team game and the goal is to win. If you kill a bunch of people but come in bottom half, you aren't gonna get a lot of points.

    I have no issue with that philosophy. I'd just like them to tweak the relative values so that ratting isn't so common.
  • @SwaTSNiper242 Yea it's ridiculous you can kill two full teams alone and still lose 40rp in plat, like wtf that doesn't make any sense at all

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