So feckin' bored of the diamond+ metaRanked? Casual? Duo? Trio?There's very little difference; after the first few minutes of a match you can be sure that practically every fight will feature Wingman & PK, with the final few squads usually featuring these weapons exclusively. (alongside some r99's and the odd prowler)Please sort it out Respawn; these weapons have been OP since day one, and despite numerous soft nerfs are STILL over-represented.Why not try a different approach?Nerf them into oblivion so we see a fresh new meta evolve, and then gradually buff them back towards being balanced.On a related note; legend variety has improved a *little* bit - so congratulations on that Respawn.Sure we're still plagued by Wraiths in almost every squad, but at least there's more variety when it comes to the other squad member(s).

@nwevolution Because those are all weapons with a high skill ceiling to master but are good once you have mastered them. Give a wingman or peacekeeper to a noob and he will miss all his shots. Give those same noobs an R301 or spitfire and they will have a bigger chance of hitting anything. Most of those weapons are either single shot and reward accuracy or they have high recoil. They don’t need to get nerfed, people like OP should just stop crying and get better.

@TheJumpingJawa I am not saying that I think the spawn rate OR the weapon balance of the high tier weapons is perfectly balanced. I dont find it super broken but sure, there always room for improvements. However, I dont agree the principle of item tiers is a bad thing, i.e that some weapon has more potential to be more effective than others, and therefore more popular. This will reward people who fights and and kills since they obviously will get to choose the best stuff from more areas when they loot the deathboxes.So if you see a lot of Wingmans and PKs in the top 5, then its just as it should be. The problem is if the loot spawn rate of these top tier items is too high, but honestly I dont feel that way. How many Pks and Wingmans are there on average in each high tier loot areas in ranked? If you ask me, its very rare that more than one player in the "winning" team of a given area has a Wingman when they leave the area.

i wouldnt mind seeing them being buffed. lets spice this up a bit. certainly dont need more nerfs.

@Babbediboopi in diamond, master and predator.. in the winning team i always saw R99, PK and wingman... rarely other weapon.. some use R301 or flatline instead of the R99.. but the secondary is always PK or WM... rare case they have a hemlock single fire or G7

@TheJumpingJawaIm fine with wingmans personally but I am sick of PKs, especially early game its like having a mastiff... 1 shot your down

Wingman..PK..Wingman..PK..PK..Wingman :sigh:

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Babbediboopi
6 years ago
@TheJumpingJawa
I am not saying that I think the spawn rate OR the weapon balance of the high tier weapons is perfectly balanced. I dont find it super broken but sure, there always room for improvements. However, I dont agree the principle of item tiers is a bad thing, i.e that some weapon has more potential to be more effective than others, and therefore more popular. This will reward people who fights and and kills since they obviously will get to choose the best stuff from more areas when they loot the deathboxes.
So if you see a lot of Wingmans and PKs in the top 5, then its just as it should be. The problem is if the loot spawn rate of these top tier items is too high, but honestly I dont feel that way. How many Pks and Wingmans are there on average in each high tier loot areas in ranked? If you ask me, its very rare that more than one player in the "winning" team of a given area has a Wingman when they leave the area.
nwevolution
Rising Traveler
6 years ago
@Babbediboopi in diamond, master and predator.. in the winning team i always saw R99, PK and wingman... rarely other weapon.. some use R301 or flatline instead of the R99.. but the secondary is always PK or WM... rare case they have a hemlock single fire or G7
FaIIenAngeI777
6 years ago
@TheJumpingJawaIm fine with wingmans personally but I am sick of PKs, especially early game its like having a mastiff... 1 shot your down
NoLove1337
6 years ago
i wouldnt mind seeing them being buffed. lets spice this up a bit. certainly dont need more nerfs.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
6 years ago
They are crazy OP the wingman i understand it takes good aim to land the shots. The PK needs nerfed into the ground and completely re-worked imo. It is so unreliable at times doing full on 120 damage with no hop charge to random times 7 damage. But all the elites never miss so being blasted by 120 damage pk is 100% gonna happen. It needs lowered drasticly with the damage it can do. I have also found there is a hit box flaw with it. Can aim at a head sure may but shields. Can jump in the air then aim at head and you gonna rock that dudes world. Always wondered why people would jump when shooting it now i know the hit box is much easier to hit in the air apparently.
DrangleicSouls
6 years ago
It’s strange for me that a revolver has the same strength and range as a rifle or sniper rifle in terms of damage. Especially the damage to the head of the rifles below.
I am writing through a translator. Excuse me.
MoNosDirtyGamin
6 years ago
@TheJumpingJawa In my lobbies it is just Prowler with select fire, 1 person from every team has it -_- (even in the first few seconds of the game)
BennSauna
6 years ago
@nwevolution Because those are all weapons with a high skill ceiling to master but are good once you have mastered them. Give a wingman or peacekeeper to a noob and he will miss all his shots. Give those same noobs an R301 or spitfire and they will have a bigger chance of hitting anything. Most of those weapons are either single shot and reward accuracy or they have high recoil. They don’t need to get nerfed, people like OP should just stop crying and get better.
XvinzmanX
6 years ago
joking right? lol.these weapon is the only op if they keep getting headshot.
and so as every other weapon.
if any nurf should be havoc.
a gun that anyone can use by pressing the button and no need to require aiming the head just shot with the number of bullets you can kill any purple armour with 1 magazine on all body shot.
whats the skill of that?
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@XvinzmanX Well, the havoc requires a ton of aiming. It has lots of recoil.