Wraith is nerfed to DEATH!!!
Either remove Wraith or leave her alone....u have made her near impossible to use compared to almost every other legend...where as im tired of all the buffs to Gibraltor, and returning his gun shield...
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@Sir_Named I understand where you are coming from, but lets face it for a moment. wraith portal while good for various movement actions isn't equal to a gibby dome shield. for example you cannot heal inside the portal and anyone can follow using it to finish off or escape from you.
caustics gas makes it hard for your own team to see through and fire at enemies and can be a hinderance as much as a help, they are also easily removed by shooting at the metal base.
bangalore smoke wont stop bullets and makes anyone reviving a team member inside still at risk. rolling thunder imo is not as good as the gibby bombardment its time delay and spacing of shells make it somewhat ok to avoid and although it has a larger area of shell placement it is rather predictable unlike gibby bombs which last abit longer and strike multiple times over the area of effect. (I mainly play bangalore and lifeline btw)
lifeline has good healing and revive but that's about it tbh, the care packages are ok and at times somewhat good but rather random, the healing bot is of course a good tool but gibby dome does everything for him that lifeline can do in terms of revive and heal speeds plus adds lifeline healing speed to team mates.
as for wraith run anim, its to easy imo to score headshots on her from the front because she is so leaned forwards its literally legs or head shots that will hit with hip fire from a medium range add the time taken to activate into the void which is at least half as long to long makes her somewhat easy to kill. headshots do so much damage that even 5% extra does make a difference to her, of course It is situational catching her coming towards you unaware.
I know rebalancing can be a tricky business but imo nerfs of the same character over and over are not the answer I would like to see buffs applied to characters that seem to be lacking in some way over nerfing characters. and I would also be more reluctant over nerfing based on complaints of community because a lot of complaints stem from angry people who lost a lot of games or feel they was cheated somehow when it could just be they are not good and fighting players who are alot better. take for example me for instance I have played around 4000 games since day1 I have been on winning teams about 50 times total I am a terrible shot its very rare I do 200 damage in a game and I have lost count to the amount of times I have been punched to death while trying to shoot an enemy lol... but I don't demand its because the character is op and needs a nerf I don't cry hacks or snap keyboards or punch holes in my monitor over it, however those kinds of reactions are quite common place in online gaming, the devs should take them with a pinch of salt. anyways sorry for the what now must be a wall of text have a good1
caustics gas makes it hard for your own team to see through and fire at enemies and can be a hinderance as much as a help, they are also easily removed by shooting at the metal base.
bangalore smoke wont stop bullets and makes anyone reviving a team member inside still at risk. rolling thunder imo is not as good as the gibby bombardment its time delay and spacing of shells make it somewhat ok to avoid and although it has a larger area of shell placement it is rather predictable unlike gibby bombs which last abit longer and strike multiple times over the area of effect. (I mainly play bangalore and lifeline btw)
lifeline has good healing and revive but that's about it tbh, the care packages are ok and at times somewhat good but rather random, the healing bot is of course a good tool but gibby dome does everything for him that lifeline can do in terms of revive and heal speeds plus adds lifeline healing speed to team mates.
as for wraith run anim, its to easy imo to score headshots on her from the front because she is so leaned forwards its literally legs or head shots that will hit with hip fire from a medium range add the time taken to activate into the void which is at least half as long to long makes her somewhat easy to kill. headshots do so much damage that even 5% extra does make a difference to her, of course It is situational catching her coming towards you unaware.
I know rebalancing can be a tricky business but imo nerfs of the same character over and over are not the answer I would like to see buffs applied to characters that seem to be lacking in some way over nerfing characters. and I would also be more reluctant over nerfing based on complaints of community because a lot of complaints stem from angry people who lost a lot of games or feel they was cheated somehow when it could just be they are not good and fighting players who are alot better. take for example me for instance I have played around 4000 games since day1 I have been on winning teams about 50 times total I am a terrible shot its very rare I do 200 damage in a game and I have lost count to the amount of times I have been punched to death while trying to shoot an enemy lol... but I don't demand its because the character is op and needs a nerf I don't cry hacks or snap keyboards or punch holes in my monitor over it, however those kinds of reactions are quite common place in online gaming, the devs should take them with a pinch of salt. anyways sorry for the what now must be a wall of text have a good1
The only problem I see with wraith is that her tactical is too easy to spot (this is coming from someone who doesn't play wraith but someone who has fought against multiple wraiths and killed them).
They should honestly reduce the amount of time that there is a trail. For example, for half the duration wraith is in her tactical there's a trail, for the other half there's no trail. That way enemies can know the general direction, but not be able to predict where her tactical ends.
It's too easy to track down a wraith when she activates her tactical, at this point, her tactical is mainly used to escape damage and not the enemy; it just delays the inevitable.
@S8N_Spawn I understand where you are coming from. In general the game just needs more legends to change the % on the pick rate. There is nothing we can really do about that. And a 5% damage intake increase vs a non or 15% damage reduction will make or break you in a lot of fights people underestimate that. Apply a -5% decrease vs no decrease vs. +15% increase to anything in the game or in life in general you will see a difference. Me personally, I don’t have a hard time hitting low profile characters And a lot of other players don’t. This is also based off skill level and situations in game.You got to remember wraith has already had nerfs on her tactical which made it slower and with a 35 second Cooldown. That is bigger than you know. On top of that you can see her trail, she can’t open doors and she moves the same speed in her tactical. Her tactical also has a delay which has gotten me killed many times due to the animation. And as for the aiming part I think that a lot of players who play wraith and path are good and strafing and dodge bullets. Don’t get me wrong their size does help but I think once again it’s based off skills. If a wraith is just running at me head on she is going to die but if she is moving left to right obviously it’s going to be hard to hit her. But she also takes less bullets to finish her. And there are ways they can make legends skills better to be on par with wraith and path. Once again you play a legend that you are good with. I know octanes,cryptos, Watsons, that can take out wraiths no problem because they know how to play around it. You can read the post I just gave to @Sir_Named @there are ways to buff the other legends to help with the pick rate issues and even the tactical aspect of the game. I appreciate your respond though and I do see where you’re coming from.💯
One last thing when wraith enters her void that means two things. Either she is in a bad position where she can lose a fight or she is near death and needs to retreat to avoid getting finished. There are many ways I can say how there are better ways to improve the game but it’s drawn out enough. On top of it the forum keeps deleting people’s post.
@NerfGameKillerRight! I've replied to your post 3 times, but it's removed before I finish every time. Just doing a quick one now to add to it in a minute.
And again, I do agree, buffing other legends is definitely a good move to try to equalize the usage rates, but no other legends abilities come close to what Wraith and Pathyboi provide so the only way to buff those other abilities enough would be to make them extremely OP and we'd be having this same discussion about nerfing that legend.
Look, the fact remains, Wraith is by far the most used legend, and it's not because she's the hottest (we'll see what the usage for Loba looks like when she comes out). Her and Pathfinder are unquestionably the best legends in the game because of their entire kits (size, movement, abilities). There is ZERO reason to not pick them (from a tactical perspective), the 5% damage increase doesn't matter when they're not getting hit (as much as other legends). How's about this, take away low profile and make them the same hitbox and movement as Revenant/Mirage would that be too big of a nerf?
I play all legends, but have had some of my best games as Wraith and Pathfinder specifically because of their kits.
@S8N_Spawn @Pretzelnutcake @I agree with you pretzel.That wouldn’t work by taking away low profile that would mean they would have to resize the characters and change the values which could either take forever or mess up the game. I’m not mad about the low profile, its just them keep downgrading her skills. Yes she has a good tactile but it’s not overpowered. She can’t reload or heal in the void. I agree they are better then some other legends but other legends are getting buffed soon. Mirage just got a confirmed buff update and then it will be for some others. I just think it would be hard to establish a middle ground. I definitely think she doesn’t need anymore nerfs. I know the game is working from a marketing stand points but it’s almost how fortnite nerf some things because the casual players who weren’t as good were complaining. Which made then lose a good amount of the player base. Change isn’t always good but same can be said for no change. It would be nice to have a vote to see where most people stand on these topics and their skill level in the game.
- @S8N_Spawn Exactly, the trouble is though Wraith mains dont use anyone else and complain when other legends get a buff or she gets a nerf.i would get bored using the same legend all the time.
@xx_Dante2k_xx Wraith mains don’t make up the whole community. Everyone was complaining about buffs when Gibby got buffed not just wraith mains. And not all wraith mains just use wraith. You are just putting wraith users into one category and assuming they all do or think the same things. If anything most people would be fine with other legends getting buff.
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