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5 years ago

Wraith still OU and OP? Why buff Wingman?

I've pretty much given up on this game with how awful balancing is dealt with.

Wraith still being overused and too powerful with her hitbox is mainly why I've given up, it is painfully obvious good players pick her for her hitboxes, I don't understand why they keep nerfing her skills and why they can't make her hitbox just a bit bigger, Wraith just have a constant advantage in 1 v 1 situations that skills simply cannot compete against, a natural passive that's always in effect and just straight up always giving the player an advantage, the 5% extra damage almost adds nothing to a fight when it's simply better to avoid shots than to get hit.

A nerf is needed to Wraith's hitboxes, her skills need to be buffed and her passive effects like low profile or limb damage should be removed as it was a poor attempt to try and tune up her ridiculously small size, I couldn't care less if it didn't accurately represent her model, there's already characters in this game that don't have accurately representing hitboxes (Mirage, Octane, Revenant)

And to add to that they recently buffed the wingman again with a headshot buff? Why? Wingman was in such a fine place in season 5, it was probably the most balanced weapon and the devs just go ahead and slap a headshot perk on it all of a sudden? Everyone is going into fights with Wingman now, the headshot damage is too benefiting in mid-range situations that a whole squad can just blast away and get a lucky hit in every so often with how great its rate of fire is for a 90 damage shot.

Get rid of headshot perk for wingman.

Anyway, great game, shame Wraith has been ruining it since Season 1, this character could still do great without any skills/ultimates. Until she gets a nerf to her hitbox, I don't find myself playing this game as often and will eventually uninstall when I find something more enjoyable with my gaming buddies.

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creamonurstream
5 years ago
I can agree with wraiths hitbox issues but i have to disagree with the wingman buff.
The wingman is a very hard weapon to master to be honest and skullpiercer has been in the game since season 1. It isnt a buff it's a revamp and not only is it the second iteration but it is in fact still toned down within its mag size to accommodate for all players. Orginally the mag held 12 shots with purple mag now maximum is 8. This is a happy medium for individuals whom care to use it.
Realistically, if the wingman didnt have skullpiercer in (which you still have to hit headshots). One would have no chance against a G7 or Mastiff or even worse a havoc rifle.
MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@Sha-PhoenixRave A lot of players (myself included) choose wraith because they're used to her, she was one of the OG characters in the game; yes she had a lot of issues but she is still very possible to get headshots on. She has definately been nerfed enough throughout the lifespan of season 1 i'd say. I do agree that when she is running like "naruto" she is harder to hit, especially when dodging bullets at the same time. Depending on the character you play/main you need to adjust your aim for each enemy, for example if you're using pathfinder and fighting against wraith you need to aim down slightly or you will miss your shots.

The wingman being buffed was due to the developers changing the meta back to "spray and pray", this is noticeable when using guns that can't down your opponents in 4 hits or less.

You've been here since season 1 so you know all about the skullpiercer and the issues the wingman had back then, it is definitely in a better place at this moment in time. A few nights ago I was watching Soltek's stream and he proposed a season without the wingman at all so pro players were forced to manage recoil control.

Even though I main wraith and have done since season 1 I too don't find myself playing this game as much this season, it's just boring. Maybe you're just burnt out with the game and don't realise it.

I'd suggest the mafia trilogy to play (2 and 3 have been remastered but 1 is being remade and will be released august 28th), saints row 3 remaster (releasing on the 22nd, so tomorrow), warzone seems pretty good right now with their version of the vaults being recently released, amazon has recently released a new game too which is similar to paragon which is called "crucible" you could check that out. Apart from that though all the next gen games will release around september - december.