100 million players! Hype!

@OldTreeCreeperI can see that. The maps look alright (I’m more of a SP person so the maps I’m accustomed to are far more detailed, rich and lovely) so I can see why ppl would look around and there’s almost nothing wrong with that (except the fact that some ppl are so into looking at the scenery while their teammate is getting ganged upon by 2 enemy teams and pinging and requesting help, kinda like here: https://archive.org/details/Battlefield_Friends/BFFs+Season+3/S3E11+-+Close+Quarters.mp4), but I’m talking more about the devs’ seeming direction to make the game more accessible for the average player by limiting what the hardcore or the more seasoned players can do...

It’s like how EA turned Dead Space series from a Horror Shooter in Dead Space 1 & 2 into a Shooter with horror elements in Dead Space 3 because and I partially quote “Dead Space 3 needed to ship more figures to be successful and it needed at least 5 million sales”. Well you can take this 2 ways of course. 1 Yes, it needed more sales so forcing it into a broader genre is the way to go or 2 this has nothing to do with the fanbase and it just needed more to sell and it was on Respawn and the community that it didn’t do well.

If you look at the various interviews you’ll see that point 2 has no merit and it was basically forced down from the top to make it more accessible and what happened? It flopped. HARD.

Other example. Resident Evil Series. 1 through 4 were heralded as the best ones. Survival horror to the fullest. RE4(5 anyone? xD) deviated a little bit and went more of an adventure shooter direction but core was still horror.

Capcom saw that the playerbase was huge and they liked it but wanted more sales. So what did they do? Turned it into an adventure shooter with horror elements in the ridiculous Resident Evil 5... and 6... It however worked cause the fanbase for the series was large, as opposed to dead space, but fans and critics alike didn’t like the direction, whereas new players who knew of RE liked it because of the pew pew.

Then what happend? Resident 7 happened and the core and even the shooter fans liked it and it went on to be one of the best selling and rated Resident Evils!

TLDR: HORROR FTW! Also, don’t mess with the fundamentals!

@Koochi-Q lol I can get caught out, zooming in with a scope on a previously unnoticed detail of a flower or a rock.

What is SP you mention? 

@OldTreeCreeperI'm here for conversation as well. But topics often start on such a strong, unfavorable bias, that only confirmations are accepted and any attempts to push it in the debatable area are met with disdain.

Luckily, I know there are people around that do have an open mind. OP is one of them, too, actually that's why I dared to call him negative. He's very capable of looking from multiple perspectives, but always picks the most unfavorable or puts stuff in the worst light.

@Koochi-QWell, Apex is hardcore by definition. Yes, it does try to casualize the experience to make midcore gamers feel less "punished", but it's like easing the beginning of the learning curve, so that beginners can get a little momentum to help them get a little further on the long steep climb that follows.

@Koochi-Q you presume that I have the wherewithall to put 2 and 2 together and go from "sp" equalling you playing alone while I eye things from a local branch 😃

Now I know. 

@DoYaSeeMe Still at it 😃 some could say that one wants to put the unfavorable in the best light. 

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy reading your informative posts and learn a lot from them (what I understand) and value your opinion. 👍

@Koochi-Q I'm the king of the swingers, oh....

A veritable jungle VIP 😃

@DarthValtrex They've definitely been communicating a lot more recently which is a good thing but they're bound to get some stick for leaving it this long. Hopefully they push through it and we get more substance and not the usual ''we're aware of the issues and investigating it'' with improvements on the horizon and not excuses. 

@Koochi-Q I agree but it would be nice to see some real statistics (concurrent players on each or all platforms) and not something that's easily manipulated with certain methods or wording. This is EA after all.

@Daze623 More to come! Excited? 😛

@OldTreeCreeper After analysing your analysis, i have come to the conclusion that both your conclusions deserves merit. 😃 In recognition of your hard work, here's some XP for you! 

@DoYaSeeMe I'm not negative! Critical and slightly pessimistic when it comes to information provided by EA but i've seen their methods long enough to know that not everything is as it appears. Also, i have to be critical because i left the forums for 2 weeks and @DarthValtrex became borderline toxic and we don't need that negativity infecting the positive ones here so i take one for the team.

He merely adopted the dark. I was born in it. 👿