7 years ago
Age and PC specs
Hi Guys, I've been playing Apex Legends for a couple of months now, and first of all congrats for such a cool and addictive game! I will be the first to admit that I'm a lousy player. I'm 50 years ...
Without making it complicated, the only thing you have to consider now and in the future is if the hardware you are purchasing, you will be taking advantage of it, otherwise you are just throwing away money.
So to explain it another way, 2080TI, will any game you play take advantage of ray tracing and and of the changes to the card...
A lot of people think that getting the latest and fastest is the best, it's not, it's only the latest technology, which a lot of people will not be taking advantage of, and then when you look online and see the actual benchmarks on these specs, many times we are only talking small percentages in difference, which sometimes, don't amount to much.
All your hardware is already overkill for a game like Apex, also as I pointed out, you have to figure what you are playing, because if you also don't balance it correctly, then many games as example you can't play on Ultra settings, but of course wanting a 2080Ti would put you in high resolution ranges, if that is all you are thinking about with a card like this.
Some people might play Apex on 1440P, but to be really competive it's best to stick to 1080P.
The MSI monitor and the 1660ti will make a big difference, it's the next step you should take, and the reason why, it's a fairly big step up and you should see what this is like before going any further, otherwise you will not know what this step is like and you might find out for your needs it's enough without throwing away money.
PEACE
P.S. Go with one of the EVGA 1660ti; (Research the Dual Fan Models, over the single fan models)
Thanks for your advice. I'll keep an eye on the prices of everything here and see how it goes.
I'm looking forward to (and hoping) that the switch up from 60hz to 144hz is a very noticeable difference and advantage.
For those people who have enough money, a 240hz monitor can also be set to a lower hz I think, until they can get a faster GPU, etc.
I agree that for now it could be ideal to get a 144hz one.
I originally liked the idea of a 1660ti (for 1080p). I know that the MSI ones are nice and quiet, which is good for me here in my small (wooden) apartment in Japan.
Maybe the EVGAs are quiet too. It would be nice to enjoy a decent overclock, etc. and still have a nice quiet system for gaming through the night or whatever.
Cheers mate. Never too old to talk about computers !
Thanks. I'll keep an eye on the news..
Since everyone else has helped you on the computer front I will address the other question you posed about age and reaction and all of that. I am 45 and while I played video games casually off and on over the years not really into online or competition style play until a couple of years ago.
I could and did write a novel(just deleted all of it and started over).
To make this short I suffered a severe brain injury 4 years ago and have used video games as a source for recovery. The most important factor for me has been watching clips of my gameplay to see where I struggle and to see where I am improving. In Apex I would recommend watching battles you lose to see if you are clip strafing. Are you shooting to the right or left without realizing it? If so adjust the next game and see if it improves. There can be alot more to this game then just land die rinse repeat if you want it to.
BTW I play on PS4 not computer for specific reasons, I spec out and build/ maintain our network, engineering and programming computers so playing on a computer in my free time does nothing for me. I just want to hit power on and go play. You have gotten some good suggestions on video cards and monitors. My suggestion on top of all others would be to get the best monitor first that you can afford with the best refresh rate possible. Video card would be second on my list.Also since I don't remember seeing it listed RAM would also be on my list if you have availabilty I would look at configuring my RAM to optimize my computer. Depending on options of available slots and capacity of your desktop RAM cards are pretty cheap and will help most computers process better. (If you have 4 slots for RAM utilize them, you are better off with 4X 2 gigs vs. 2X 4 gig cards, it makes a world of difference in any graphics driven program)
Anyways I was responding primarily to let you know that you are not the only salt and pepper player out there. I play primarily with 20-22 year olds because there are not alot of us (Atari) generation players on Apex. On a side note I do remember standing in a line to buy my copy of Pac-Man for the 2600 so I will date myself.
Good luck and enjoy your trips to the battle ring.
You've just been unlucky if you are saying that Nvidia cards break more then AMD, there are no facts to back up what you are saying.
The VRM issues started several years ago, this is old news and not relevant now.
I've used probably 10 generations of Nvidia cards, mainly from EVGA over 15 years, and never once ever had any issuses.
EVGA are great video cards and it's the only company to use. I personally own a stock GTX 1060 6GB at present, that I've been using for almost 2 years, on average 10 hours a day, and not one problem at all, rock solid!
Everyone's needs are different, just because a 1080ti might be a good card, if someone doesn't have $600 USD to blow, then what does it matter?
Best is based on the Needs of the Individual and their pocket book, and if GrantBarker is only going to play some various games that will never meet up to the gaming specs of a 1080TI, then it's a waste of money, and a card half the price like a 1660ti could work just fine for someone, for several years, again, based on their needs.
Next question no one ever asked!
Do you ever plan on using Linux? If you do, Nvidia support is much better in Linux.
Linux by the way, if there are games someone plays, that are supported in Linux, from the track record I have seen in Linux run and perform better.
Steam has a Linux version and Valve has a Linux gaming platform, 'Steam OS'.
Thanks. I have been looking online at the different prices for used. It's very appealing, yet a bit risky too as you say.
I'm keeping my eyes open though. It would indeed be nice to have the best of everything related to PCs, but unfortunately I can't afford it at the moment.
It's good to hear that you got a decent used 1080Ti.
I appreciate your input and advice.
Why did you delete the novel you were typing? I'm just curious. (At my age, it's all too easy to want to give up sometimes..)
That's a great idea about recording gameplay. I swear Apex is making me physically lose my hair. I have felt the same with stressing over BF4 in the past too, which is actually the main reason why I stopped playing it.
I've never recorded gameplay before, even for myself. Truth be told, I'd like to be a streamer if I felt up to it. But talking and listening to people is where it's mostly at for me (as opposed to saying hey look at my gameplay). I even found myself recently stop bopping a downed opponent, empty all my ammo and weapons on the floor in front of him, kneel beside him and let his teammate find me and kill me. (I was so surprised to have beaten him, I must have felt sorry for him or his hardware.) (It takes all sorts.)
I'm pleased you have found a source of recovery for your severe brain injury, especially when it's as fun as game related. (Side note - I often research NDEs and OBEs as a source of faith in the future or inspiration to think less about stuff nowadays.)
I'm such a pu55y in game. I swear I flinch or panic in a cqb situation, plus I don't think I or my monitor keep up so well so as not to panic.
I'm using 2 sticks of 3200 RAM (16gb each) thinking that I would get more when I can afford it. However, I probably should have gotten 4000 mhz anyway (which was the original dream or plan.)
I've watched quite a few Apex videos including PS4, etc. I assume that most console players have similar specs to each other, compared to PC players. I've even noticed that some top PC players do better from home as opposed to a place where the hardware is the same for everyone. (I know the XL2546 has the ability to brighten up hard to see dark areas. So, sometimes on Twitch what we are seeing is not necessarily a true representation of what the op is seeing.)
There has to be a cooler expression than salt and pepper. Bangalore says things like Ready Up, Rock and Roll or something like that, but never let's go.. salt and pepper. (I'm missing the coolness of youth enough, without having to relate to myself as salt and pepper something..) (Just kidding.)
Thanks for your advice and input. May you loot less and help your teammates - more than I do.
Thanks. I don't plan on using Linux, even within Windows 10. I've tinkered with and used Ubuntu (and openSuse) in the past, but usually come back to or mostly use Windows 10. I'm probably a little lazy when it comes to using the command line for things like setting up internet connections or audio, drivers etc. As recently as 2 months ago I installed Ubuntu on an old laptop only to kind of give up and go back to Windows 7 for that device, after having to fiddle too much to get the ethernet port working. I only use that laptop as a device for occasional visitors to chill and use at my home.
Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.
No matter what you do now or in the future, always remember, that when hardware comes out, most things, inculding games do not take advantage of them.
So there's no point in buying the top line hardware if whatever you're going to be doing is not going to take advantage of them, it's just a waste of money, and most people throw away money not realizing it.
So like you considering that RAM upgrade, you really need to read specs on what you plan on doing if it's going to really matter, and with RAM the upgrade will only be small percentages...
It's like me at the present owning a GTX 1060 6GB and the 1660ti just came out, and upgrading to this is only a small change, so buying a 1660ti just to get a new card with some changes, it's not worth it, this is a perfect example...
Thanks. I agree. I only build/upgrade a new PC every 5, 6 or more years. About 6 years ago I bought a Z77X-UP7 motherboard which I didn't even overclock. Having said that I also bought the 3770K which was becoming fairly old by then. By the time I had built that build (I bought a part every couple of months and watched them pile up by my desk) it was about 18 months old.
I believe in the concepts in this non-computer related video: watch?v=TIjvXtZRerY (paste it on YouTube. I don't want to spam.) When it comes to computer parts however, to truly be worthy and happy in this world - WE NEED THE BEST! Just kidding.. mostly..