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Why am I losing all my Assetto Corsa races when I am on MnK against wheel & pedals?
Dude, ALGS stats differ from what you say:
https://liquipedia.net/apexlegends/Apex_Legends_Global_Series/2023/Championship/Statistics
Tournament team stats Top 5 has 9 MnK of 15 players with two triple MnK teams.
Top 5 Player kill stats has 3 MnK players.
So if you are good on MnK then you are really good. Blaming input imbalance without trying to improve or adapt as professional is like complaining about losing work as bicycle delivery guy to a motorbike delivery guy. Also answer me why is MnK player Zer0 the kill leader of NAs most dominant team at the moment?
For average & casual MnK players that want to accomplish something besides casual fun Apex is just not your game.
There are games with no aim assist but if you insist on playing Apex then you have to accept the above (unless something big changes).
- 2 years ago
Zer0 is an IGL, underperformed to his team mates in ALGS 2023 (image attached).
You can also see R5 data on this topic (attached). MNK is not a viable input at the pro level, or the casual level. There is a graveyard of tier-1 professional players who have been fired and replaced with controller who can attest to this.
- VersusGravity2 years agoRising Scout@Airish85 Something that is only viable because of assist isn't the better tool for the job. Your analogy is awful.
If I'm racing in AC with a MnK, and the devs decide to give mouse players a bunch of assist. Let's say that mouse users only have to worry about gas and breaks, steering is taken care of, and that becomes the competitive way to play. That would be spitting in the face of the people with full sim rigs with force feedback wheels and load cell breaks.
Mice are better for aiming. Take away that artificial assist that controllers are given, which would be considered soft aimbots back in the day, and they wouldn't be able to compete at all. It's ridiculous. There's nothing fair about some users getting assist, while others aren't. Bottom line, it's about selling cosmetics to casual gamers. It's not about being fair, or competitive, it's about selling crap.- 2 years ago
@VersusGravity Please note: This discussion started as pro player controller aim assist. Not the daily rant on casual aim assist.
I have another analogy. Remember when in swimming everyone was wearing those full body suits? And then they banned them because pretty much every record got obliterated?
Why was every record breaking competitive swimmer wearing one? Pro *anything* should always have the best possible equipment for whatever they are doing.
"Bottom line, it's about selling cosmetics to casual gamers. It's not about being fair, or competitive, it's about selling crap."
Agreed. US is the biggest controller market. US is also the biggest country in terms of player numbers of roughly 40%. Next up is UK with around 7%.
Why would EA kill the milking cow? Is there a money making market for MnK Assetto Corsa? Not really so it doesnt really work out.
Funny sidenote: Last nights the infamous hacker destroyer2009 hacked TSM ImperialHal during ALGS regional finals who then continued to play with 100% aimbot but couldnt tell if he had aimbot on or not because he is so accustomed to short range one clips on his controller 😃- VersusGravity2 years agoRising Scout
@Airish85Mouse IS the Pro equipment. You keep giving examples of tools that are better for the job, but not given artificial assistance. If mouse players were given the same amount of assist as controller players, then what device do you think pros would pick for tournaments? You'd never see a Controller used if that was the case.
None of us are Pros here, and I think the OP was outlining how Controller are out performing Mice at the top level. These forums are for the regular players.
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