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If I'm racing in AC with a MnK, and the devs decide to give mouse players a bunch of assist. Let's say that mouse users only have to worry about gas and breaks, steering is taken care of, and that becomes the competitive way to play. That would be spitting in the face of the people with full sim rigs with force feedback wheels and load cell breaks.
Mice are better for aiming. Take away that artificial assist that controllers are given, which would be considered soft aimbots back in the day, and they wouldn't be able to compete at all. It's ridiculous. There's nothing fair about some users getting assist, while others aren't. Bottom line, it's about selling cosmetics to casual gamers. It's not about being fair, or competitive, it's about selling crap.
@VersusGravity Please note: This discussion started as pro player controller aim assist. Not the daily rant on casual aim assist.
I have another analogy. Remember when in swimming everyone was wearing those full body suits? And then they banned them because pretty much every record got obliterated?
Why was every record breaking competitive swimmer wearing one? Pro *anything* should always have the best possible equipment for whatever they are doing.
"Bottom line, it's about selling cosmetics to casual gamers. It's not about being fair, or competitive, it's about selling crap."
Agreed. US is the biggest controller market. US is also the biggest country in terms of player numbers of roughly 40%. Next up is UK with around 7%.
Why would EA kill the milking cow? Is there a money making market for MnK Assetto Corsa? Not really so it doesnt really work out.
Funny sidenote: Last nights the infamous hacker destroyer2009 hacked TSM ImperialHal during ALGS regional finals who then continued to play with 100% aimbot but couldnt tell if he had aimbot on or not because he is so accustomed to short range one clips on his controller 😃
- VersusGravity2 years agoRising Scout
@Airish85Mouse IS the Pro equipment. You keep giving examples of tools that are better for the job, but not given artificial assistance. If mouse players were given the same amount of assist as controller players, then what device do you think pros would pick for tournaments? You'd never see a Controller used if that was the case.
None of us are Pros here, and I think the OP was outlining how Controller are out performing Mice at the top level. These forums are for the regular players.- 2 years ago
@VersusGravity Wasnt the body suit "artificial assistance"? With olympics its different as its not organized by a stock company with shareholders insisting on profits.
Apex is just not that game. You need to accept that or switch to another game with no aim-assist.
I personally play MnK because thats how I want to play. For me Apex was never about competition.Cant even do any of that movement magic 😃
- VersusGravity2 years agoRising Scout
@Airish85 wrote:@VersusGravity Wasnt the body suit "artificial assistance"? With olympics its different as its not organized by a stock company with shareholders insisting on profits.
Apex is just not that game. You need to accept that or switch to another game with no aim-assist.
I personally play MnK because thats how I want to play. For me Apex was never about competition.Cant even do any of that movement magic 😃
I don't understand your stance on this at all. I think that you are confused. You're a MnK player, yet defend the over tuned assist. Just weird.
Apex is my game as much it is anyone else's. They can tune the assist. It can be done. Literally changing a value within the code... Plus, every game is trending that way. It's a self perpetuating thing. If games are made easier to aim with Controllers, what's the incentive for people to get better with a mouse? I have friends that use both, but ultimately end up on Controller just because it's easier to be consistent. Then you have the issue of aim assist locking onto hit boxes, not character models, freeing up mental capacity, and not nearly as effected by visual clutter.
Your analogies aren't getting any better btw. Mine was spot on. Inferior input given assist to out perform what should be the optimal equipment for the job. Take away the assist, which is better for shooters? Pretty easy stuff.
PC shouldn't have assist in shooters. You want to be in the top ranking of a shooter on PC, then you should have to pick up MnK. Simple as that.
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