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rickyressel's avatar
6 years ago

Akimbo SMGs and pistols

So I was toying around with the idea the other day. When you pick up two of the same gun if it’s a pistol or smgs why can’t you duel wield those bad boys? Sacrifice accuracy and the ability to ADS to have faster fire rate and larger ammo pool.

Also I was thinking about how worthless double tap is. Instead of using double tab the way it is in its current state. There was a talent on the hunter in Borderlands the gave him a 25% chance to fire a second bullet without expending the ammo in his magazine. Maybe you could make it a variation of that. Give the P2020, RE-45 and maybe a few of the weaker weapons the double tap hop up with a chance to fire two bullets while only costing 1 ammo from you mag.

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  • I think both are pretty good suggestions. I know dual wielding for pistols was asked before few times, and I don't think there ever was an official replay from the devs. Also I think when it comes to SMGs, only Alternator should be dual wield-able, because not only its actually small and in a shape of a handgun already, but it is also pretty weak as a weapon with its slow fire rate, so dual wielding Alternator would be a perfect perk for it. As far as pistols, I think you shouldn't be able to zoom in while dual wielding, so its more of a pure up close last resort ditch for maximum fire power. Just trying to avoid situations where people would be sniping you with two Wingmans lol

    I couldn't careless about double tap, and I don't remember last time I have seen anyone using it. I like saving ammo hop-up idea a lot, in fact I think it can be a rare mod for a lot of weapons. Like supply level drop but can be used on LMGs. That would be super useful.

  • @rickyresselDouble tap on G7scout absolutely smashes people , would be good on the Eva aswell if it wasn’t such a terrible gun to begin with .

    I feel like akimbo weapons would just be stupidly op. Can you imagine getting into a close fight with someone with akimbo R-99’s, prowlers or wingmans? Would just be ridiculous haha

  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    6 years ago

    Sounds great until you end up nose to nose with a dude running dual re-45 lol 😛

  • rickyressel's avatar
    rickyressel
    6 years ago

    That’s the thing, just as all weapons have strengths and weaknesses. So would using Akimbo. You can’t ADS so your accuracy is going to be awful. You don’t have a secondary weapon to switch to for accuracy because both gun slots are taken up to Akimbo. Your only option is to fight up close. Really close. It doesn’t sound OP if you think about how awful hip fire accuracy is. Especially with a wingman. 

  • Dual wield is not a bad idea and it was proposed before (I even suggested a legend having this as an ability a while ago). But I'm not sure if it's worth it. A lot of new animations are needed (draw / holster / fire / reload / run with / crouch with 2 weapons simultaneously, etc), Other animations need to be adjusted or changed (Bangalore smoke, Octane stim) because they use the left hand while the legend can still shoot with the weapon in the right hand. UI needs to support the toggle between single / dual, differently kitted weapons need to be synchronized somehow, especially on the magazine side. The low time to kill / high fire rate can cause problems when lag is present (hit regs, getting killed in apparently 1 shot, much lower time frame for someone with a higher ping to react, etc.).

    Double tap is a very clever way to bring the vibe of dual wielding in Apex, while being much more development friendly.