only the seller of the computer can install the game and that game is linked to that computer and that oem.so only oem can install the game on the computer and if you don't have a oem install it you can't play this way the psn can install it and companies like dell and hp, but not do it yourself.this way when the computer gets charged with hacking you can't switch hw id you need the oem. no oem no game.and the oem is sent a record that you cheated and might not resell you a computer with the game. so your banned totally, and have to play on your mum or dads pc and if you ruin it on them they get a record that can affect their job and credentials.

Wow, that is some next-level dystopian Chinese big-brother sh*t.

After seeing a wall of text for a code:On a serious note, if it would be that easy I'm pretty sure that the devs would've done that by now. Also there are no developers in this forum that could look at what you've posted. At this point I think the devs can't stop all the cheaters. They could at least lessen the cheating though.

@gg123xyz What about custom built PCs or if you upgrade components and it changes your HWID profile? If you're going this far then just have Respawn lease special PCs to play Apex on. Also, anti-cheat has single digit false positives. So if anti-cheat screws up you get an even bigger ban hammer?

@gg123xyz Or play the game on console which has far less cheating?@Koochi-Q knows #ps5masterrace

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B0n3SawMcSizzla
5 years ago
@gg123xyz What about custom built PCs or if you upgrade components and it changes your HWID profile? If you're going this far then just have Respawn lease special PCs to play Apex on. Also, anti-cheat has single digit false positives. So if anti-cheat screws up you get an even bigger ban hammer?
gg123xyz
5 years ago
@B0n3SawMcSizzla if i were to make a recipe to make this work, i would have the oem be affiliated with xbox live, nintendo, or psn, or all of them, and these services dl a pc version of the game onto the users pc.

to get this download you need to have bought the pc from the oem. the oem has a hw id on it, it lists the users name, address when they bought it, age, name of the pc, and such stuff.

then the user can buy video cards or sound cards or cpu and it doesn't affect the id hw in any way because these are hw not name and address and time they bought the computer.

then the game is installed and the user can access origin or steam and play their game on pc.

if they get banned for cheating the oem is notified and they decide if they warn or remove the game from the pc or what.

then the pc can be locked from the game and now you have a oem and it might warn other oem that your a hacker and now you need some one else to let you play the game ontheir pc and if you wreck it on them it can be linked to other stuff than the game like a social credit score and it might be bad for them.
B0n3SawMcSizzla
5 years ago
Case, Power Supply, MS Windows, Pump/reservoir, RGB fans - Fry's Electronics
GPU - Ebay
MB / CPU - Newegg
Memory - Best Buy
Custom cooling loop / water block - Alpha cool.
gg123xyz
5 years ago
@B0n3SawMcSizzla if i was going to go and add this to the do it yourself where people build their own pc they would first have a motherboard. it has a chip that installs the hw id that when wrote something happens to the board and activates a stamp that burns the board so it can't be rewrote. only read.

that is the main ingredient. then when the pc is finished built and runs windows it logs into the oem which writes to the hw chip and prevents it from being rewritten. then installs the game on the pc.

and the parts like videocard can have a array of similar write blocks that also melt and can only be read so the hw id is written to these parts and these are all read by the oem before the oem installs the game.

then when the videocard runs out of block to write too it can't install any new motherboard id and needs to be replaced but nobody replaced their motherboard every year and videocards last 5 years or so.
B0n3SawMcSizzla
5 years ago
They could do something like that if it was for all games in general. It would become an IEEE standard. They wouldn't just do it for Apex. You also have to understand that OEMs especially will knit pick HW changes to MBs that are in the nickel and dime range.
B0n3SawMcSizzla
5 years ago
Still, there are a lot of Anti-Cheat false positives and at least they are "generous" now to hold back on actual HWID bans most of the time.
gg123xyz
5 years ago
@B0n3SawMcSizzlai bet if they had a trial where the hacker has to shoot targets, and these targets are random sparkles the game puts on stuff in the environment. then if the hacker can't shoot them hes still a good shot in the game it might be he has no skill. and hes cheating to have good aim in the game.

but if hes cheating and then blink 20 things on screen and see if he hits 20 targets in one second.

then if he hits targets normally hes not a cheater. this is a good anti cheat and is something everybody does before they play for 1 or 2 minutes every day. then we see if this test matches up with their in game performance. to test if theyre a hacker or not.

if they cheat but miss on purpose then if they usually hit a high percent of their first shots but then the percentage starts to go down this is a sign of their cheat sw settings being set to miss after a while.
ThernysTF
5 years ago
Wow, that is some next-level dystopian Chinese big-brother sh*t.
gg123xyz
5 years ago
@ThernysTF its to catch cheaters. china has a policy it says catches terrorist's. this is a similar setup to catch hacker terrorists.
OoShellshock
5 years ago
@gg123xyz I'm sorry, but no one's going to agree to this. Not the players or the EA.. but. spiraling off your hardware idea. NVIDIA or AMD, I can't remember which one. Already has methods in place of using driver level graphics card information to activate their promotional games they include with their graphics card. And if you don't have that specific GPU you can't activate the game. EA could possibly team up with AMD, NVIDIA, and Anti-cheat to possibly release something similar for games to ban people with specified hardware S/N. But I don't believe those S/N's are virtual just physical. All I can view is the devices ID, which is the same for all cards of that model.