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- 3 years ago
@YourWatsonCoD has ties to the US govt. to help it get more soldiers to the US military, and has confirmed to have had serious cases of abuse within ActiBlizz. MWII is the last CoD game I'm playing.
Respawn don't give a crap about Titanfall 2.
I'm currently playing other games but Epic aren't exactly clean (i.e. Fortnite, designed to grab attention and money from little kids, that bit them back with a $500m refund they had to give to a bunch of people) - I don't know about Bungie but Destiny 2's deader than Apex Legends.https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/4/23/18507750/fortnite-work-crunch-epic-games
These prove that Respawn are one of the more ethical companies maintaining AAA titles to work for out there, yet their cash cow I do not want to even sink hours into.
- YourWatson3 years agoSeasoned Vanguard@Emery_XP respawn belongs to ea... Calling respawn an ethical company is just as funny as it is sad...what does it have to do with game itself no idea. Dont want to play br? Then dont play apex simple as that...
- 3 years ago
@YourWatsonFar more complaints go towards EA than towards Respawn. Have Respawn ever been accused of abuse? Have they forced their workers to regularly work 70-100 hours a week and even work through weekends for a long time? Have Respawn helped facilitate the interests of the US military? All the crap Apex has is specific to the project or EA.
The only companies that are as innocent as Respawn aren't doing as well as them. Respawn are the only ones who are both that ethical (relatively speaking) and successful, all because of a little BR shooter known as Apex Legends. They're the envy of various studios who are incredibly careful to prevent abuse and refuse to replicate standard game industry practices such as crunch. They're also the envy of studios that want in on the BR hype.
Been playing Destiny 2 and Fortnite. Epic's work practices are detailed in that article, I know less about Destiny 2 but I hope Bungie are as innocent in this regard as Respawn, and I'm sad they're not doing as well.
Try getting a community who aren't typically hyped about shooters to get into another one, and the one shooter they're hyped up for you don't like. They avoid CoD because of its militaristic nature, they avoid Overwatch because of ActiBlizz, they avoid Destiny 2 because of the vaulting controversy, they avoid Fortnite because of the childish aesthetic and the crap associated with children's games. This community I'm part of likes Apex Legends precisely because of the diversity and they take little issue to Respawn's reputation, as there's barely anything to take issue to aside from their association with EA. They don't care if it's a BR, or even like it's a BR but I don't. Meanwhile the only other shooters I can join they'll pass because it doesn't have the diversity they want and/or the rep they respect from the company.I am in other communities who are into shooters, but I believe ActiBlizz deserve nothing but bankruptcy in the light of their actions, and the immediate ousting of the tyrant Kotick - shooter communities aren't exactly the most wholesome but shooters are right now my most preferred genre. Also they seem to be the genre that's doing the best, and I can't name another company whose game has as many players as Apex, and where the studio has a similar rep to Respawn.
- PeterN_UK3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Emery_XP wrote:@YourWatsonCoD has ties to the US govt. to help it get more soldiers to the US military, and has confirmed to have had serious cases of abuse within ActiBlizz. MWII is the last CoD game I'm playing.
That reminded me of news interview I saw on TV about a British teenager obsessed with COD, he flew to Poland and from there he managed to join up in Ukraine without any experience at all. He shortly came home after the shock...
To topic:
There is a saying don't hate the game, hate the player.
- Developers adjust according to players do. If they buy into Microtransactions/cosmetics then it adds fuel to create more. It is because of players buying it they create more gambling aspect of heirloom. Why not just straight up let people buy it directly. Gambling makes more money and being more difficult to obtain creates the feeling more exclusive to other players of items.
- If Developers feel the game is stale or read back from community. They'll reuse graphical assets to create more maps. The maps are not high texture and it's same objects from other maps.
- Mobile gaming. Less development required and more basic gameplay mechanics to implement. Quick progression on a new account and add in Microtransactions once you're invested in the game to progress faster. Makes more money than a straight up AAA offline single player game. It is because players buy it.
Ultimately a certain fraction of players cause this loop.
As time progresses gaming will lean to this vulnerability of players.
- 3 years ago@PeterN_UK Apex Mobile at least has TDM I hear but I'm less interested about mobile gaming as someone who plays on PC.
Monetization is a somewhat separate issue for me. Fortnite and maybe CoD popularized the battle/season pass system so Apex are hardly unique in this regard. I'd hate the whales, but yeah, they do think they'll get a reward from spending a fortune on skins and playing a ton on it. I understand how they think but there are people who think it's not enough, and people can fall into that trap. I just can't see myself happily grinding BR to make the most of a skin.
I do buy skins but it's not something I desperately chase, I mostly buy mtx for speeding up progression (with Fortnite as one exception, a lot of skins look appealing to me and I did want to support Epic Games for actually having decent non-BR experiences).
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