Disclaimer: I purchased the $30 founders pack and $10 worth of Apex coins. The Apex store is, by far, the worst element of the game entirely. Companies need to make money, yes. However the method EA chose is sincerely not respectable and the prices are not a fair means of equivalent exchange. There's a reason why some legislators have actually considered outlawing loot boxes due to their appeal to gambling and exploiting peoples desires for content they want in a game. I would happily throw down $100 for a founders pack that gave me guaranteed skins for every champion upon release, some sense of seniority icon, and suitable decorations for the investment. However it's actually painful to consider spending anymore money on this game in its current form. The bottom lineI love the game. It's sincerely unique, but the I will not give this game another dollar until they adopt some modest and respectable forms of transactions for content.

The only issue I have with the economy at this point is the way Crafting Metals are only available through packs. Even if it was 25 metals per match, or a progressive system of acquiring metals, some amount of metals per match would be fantastic. At least then I know that I'll eventually get that skin I want for whatever legend regardless of luck. I just have to put in the time and effort at that point. Even better, let us use the currently somewhat pointless Legend Tokens to outright purchase Crafting Metals. At any rate, current economy gives little incentive after level 50. Hopefully that changes. I'm still optimistic.

Best way to say this acctually nor buying these said loot boxes. So maybe they will understand and change to one of the another methods.

@Allen_Booth wrote:Disclaimer: I purchased the $30 founders pack and $10 worth of Apex coins. The Apex store is, by far, the worst element of the game entirely. So......... you spent money into the game and now you're crying because their bussiness model is "unfair" ?Hell yes it is ! Lootboxes are cancer ! It kills games ^^But one thing we can't blame them for is false advertising, you knew what you were buying so what with the whining now ?

At least you cant get duplicate items. It's a free game with cosmetics in loot boxes. Unlike another shooter I know of that you have to buy, and then open loot boxes to get skins.

Yea, the pricing is madness IMO, I played the game and really enjoyed myself so I thought I'd drop some money on it to show my support, but when I went to the store and saw what I could get I just laughed and said F that. Coming from a time where $60 would get you a single player campaign, multiplayer and a ton of cosmetic stuff (even if it has to be unlocked) to $60 getting 3 skins and change (on top of the very good but still simple multiplayer) is mind boggling to me.I'll be waiting to see if the battlepass is reasonable because I do want to support the game but for now it feels like they don't want my money...

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TheSwertyy
7 years ago
Best way to say this acctually nor buying these said loot boxes. So maybe they will understand and change to one of the another methods.
Braergor
7 years ago
@Allen_Booth wrote:
Disclaimer: I purchased the $30 founders pack and $10 worth of Apex coins.
The Apex store is, by far, the worst element of the game entirely.
So......... you spent money into the game and now you're crying because their bussiness model is "unfair" ?
Hell yes it is ! Lootboxes are cancer ! It kills games ^^
But one thing we can't blame them for is false advertising, you knew what you were buying so what with the whining now ?
BoaFang7
7 years ago
I take it you didn't get what you wanted from the loot boxes
shizukuukuzihs
7 years ago
At least you cant get duplicate items. It's a free game with cosmetics in loot boxes. Unlike another shooter I know of that you have to buy, and then open loot boxes to get skins.
Allen_Booth
7 years ago
@Braergor

Such dialogue has no genuine benefit. Attempting to berate someone for a consumer complaint only highlights your personal toxicity. As whether or not it's "false advertisement" is irrelevant as that was never the point being made. (Although some have taken into question their ratios being valid after not receiving epic items after 30 boxes)
The point remains the same. There was not fair value for the money spent. It's a pretty straight forward concern.
Allen_Booth
7 years ago
@shizukuukuzihs

Yes. That's the only potential positive element of their system. No duplicates.

However, in order to get to a point in which you're not getting constant garbage unlocks you'll easily dump $200 before you start to get to the point you can craft the desired items you want or get lucky enough to achieve them.

The issue isn't about a company making money off a game, but the current price system is entirely absurd for what they're giving.
Braergor
7 years ago
Ok, please stop me when i become toxic :
1 - you spent money in the game, knowing exactly what you were buying, lootboxes
2 - you come here to oppose this game's unfair bussiness model
I may have been sarcastic, but you should be able to see the logical error in your approach. You're the kind to drive a Hummer and support ecologists against global warming ?
Some could also argue your topic should be named : "Apex store - Another discussion" considering the high number of topics blaming Ea / Respawn for their bussiness model. 😛
Allen_Booth
7 years ago
Your first point is a mere assumption. I bought the founders pack and didn't realize how little content $40 would provide. The latter point is correct.

Your analogy is in no shape or form relevant to the conversation at hand. As I didn't purchase the in game currency to help support the this specific business model and was unaware of how drastically low they provided for what you paid. Hence the post and me vowing to not spend any further funds supporting such a model.

Lastly, If there is indeed many people with similar troubles boycotting the store may prove effective long term. I will ignore a game I enjoy to help squelch a big companies greed.
omgwtfgg503
7 years ago
Doesnt CS_GO do the same thing with weapon skin boxes? And they have like... 100$ skin boxes? and its RNG slot machine too...
and dont some ppl make a living off that?
Oh yeah, that's a difference isnt it.... the skins actually have a monetary value that the buyer can resell for cash....
What a crazy idea...
Allen_Booth
7 years ago
@omgwtfgg503

I don't think you actually read my post. As stated it's expected for any developer to make money. However the cost simply isn't fair and loot boxes are a very bad business practice.

"A now-deleted thread on reddit made the rounds a few days ago cataloguing the plight of a guy who spent $500 on loot boxes to try and get the ultra-rare Wraith “heirloom” set, thinking that with guaranteed legendaries every 30 boxes, he’d be bound to get it. He didn’t." - This directly citing Forbes who has called EA on how terrible their loot boxes are.