This is the worst thing I have EVER SEEN!!!Each game is the same!Tryhards, running around the map, with Havocs dumping 32 round high DPS damage constantly!Constantly Lasering 50m and less!How can a weapon deal 18 damage, with a non stop 32 round magazine!The darned thing doesnt need magazines!The Havoc is so overpowered and silly, I TRULY believe the player-base deserves a public Apology!!!I will not support nor play a game in which the developers have so little concern.I hate Warzone but this game is completely broken.

Anybody that can control a havoc knows how much of a devastating headshot cannon it can be.With a x2 multiplier that's 36 damage per headshot, with the havocs firerate and vertical recoil that makes headshots incredibly easy to land. It's raw dps comparison is irrelevant when you factor in the odds of 3 or 4 headshots in the mix.Put that in a skilled players hands and it's pretty damn hard to kill them.We all know the havoc counter tactics but its just rarely that clean cut, fights are rarely 1v1 in apex and while that havoc users got you cover hugging you're at a disadvantage in the grand scheme of that battle.

This game is built around looting and developing your guns. The Havoc requires no development— it performs like a fully kitted weapon. And it’s very very common. If you don’t think that’s problematic then you are overlooking what this BR was meant to be.

@hhnbbfggty66 I've been having the pleasure of constantly running into people running a havoc/spitfire combo.Now i'm not saying the spitfire is OP but when it's level 3 magged and you throw a havoc in as a back up weapon..That's an insane amount of bullets that you have to avoid to kill a dude.I did hear the havocs receiving a nerf though.

@hhnbbfggty66 So the Havoc has one weakness and that is its spool up time.Havoc DPS to the body is about 167.Prowler DPS to the body is about 200R-99 DPS is 198You can definitely out shoot a havoc player with a R-99 or Prowler. That said, if you stumble across a havoc player, try and go at them with a peak-a-boom method. They will either burn up their magazines shooting nothing OR have to spool it up again. Keep in mind this is harder to do with higher skill players (i personally toggle the trigger rapidly). But this makes it much more difficult for the havoc player.Where the havoc shines is its control, magazine size and ability to land high damage head shots.I have no issue melting havoc players with a prowler w/ select fire.

@SixthOTD Had they JUST removed the turbocharger it would have been useless. The recoil balancing made it more digestible for the average player though, which when you factor in that it's now lying around everywhere makes for a nasty combo lol. 😛

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MandatoryIDtag
6 years ago
@hhnbbfggty66 I've been having the pleasure of constantly running into people running a havoc/spitfire combo.
Now i'm not saying the spitfire is OP but when it's level 3 magged and you throw a havoc in as a back up weapon..
That's an insane amount of bullets that you have to avoid to kill a dude.
I did hear the havocs receiving a nerf though.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago
@hhnbbfggty66 So the Havoc has one weakness and that is its spool up time.
Havoc DPS to the body is about 167.
Prowler DPS to the body is about 200
R-99 DPS is 198

You can definitely out shoot a havoc player with a R-99 or Prowler. That said, if you stumble across a havoc player, try and go at them with a peak-a-boom method. They will either burn up their magazines shooting nothing OR have to spool it up again. Keep in mind this is harder to do with higher skill players (i personally toggle the trigger rapidly). But this makes it much more difficult for the havoc player.

Where the havoc shines is its control, magazine size and ability to land high damage head shots.

I have no issue melting havoc players with a prowler w/ select fire.
DrenMadre
6 years ago
Early game....Havoc is tough, get a big mag to start with, easy to melt you with no shields.
Mid-late game, once you've had a chance to loot up....ill take a prowler, flatline, 99, 301....drop that havoc like a hot potato....
MandatoryIDtag
6 years ago
Anybody that can control a havoc knows how much of a devastating headshot cannon it can be.
With a x2 multiplier that's 36 damage per headshot, with the havocs firerate and vertical recoil that makes headshots incredibly easy to land. It's raw dps comparison is irrelevant when you factor in the odds of 3 or 4 headshots in the mix.Put that in a skilled players hands and it's pretty damn hard to kill them.
We all know the havoc counter tactics but its just rarely that clean cut, fights are rarely 1v1 in apex and while that havoc users got you cover hugging you're at a disadvantage in the grand scheme of that battle.
SixthOTD
6 years ago
@hhnbbfggty66 Havoc has become my favorite AR to use, and I love seeing all the Havoc hate lol. If you can't beat it, that's your own fault, there are plenty of ways to outplay it. If you think its so OP why don't you just use it?
MandatoryIDtag
6 years ago
@SixthOTD You basically have to...it seems to have eaten half the weapon spawns in game. XD
SixthOTD
6 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag Yeah I feel like I see it way more often then I used to. I thought the removal of the Turbocharger would make the weapon useless, but it remains just as strong as ever.
MandatoryIDtag
6 years ago
@SixthOTD Had they JUST removed the turbocharger it would have been useless. The recoil balancing made it more digestible for the average player though, which when you factor in that it's now lying around everywhere makes for a nasty combo lol. 😛
CrazyPlays54
6 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag I wish people would use havoc in my games. I had to stop running it because no one had energy ammo late game, so I was running around with a weapon with 1 and a half stacks of ammo in final zone. Not good.
Sir_Named
6 years ago
@hhnbbfggty66 The devs are paying attention to us. They have basically confirmed that the havoc is getting a nerf in S5.