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1ronKeys's avatar
2 years ago

Ash ... her abilities lacking ?

Been playing her a bit. 

I really like the idea of her abilities and the aesthetics. But anyone else feel they're a bit lacking?

The snare has never really bothered me, only got good by it once. Still offers enemies enough movement to dodge cqc and doesn't last so long to be a real problem.

The Ult, I find this pretty cool when it works, but its range can be a little lacklustre, and particularly for me its deployment

- playing over bumpy terrain can be problematic and you end up going a short distance

- would be better if you could aim it a bit better or more specific, trigger it airborne.

- not berg good as an escape tool

I feel like her Ult may be better suited as some kind of Tactical, shorten its range and keep similar to how it is but allow to cast it OVER obstacles.

Would make her more mobile. She feels like she should be quite mobile/combatty. 

I dunno what her alt should become. Some kind of sword melee? And gives her maybe 5 tactical (curremt ult) to use, for 20 seconds. Like a mega nerfed version of the buster sword.

Any thoughts ?

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  • @1ronKeys Her passive is only really good for pubs when wanting to find fights. Her tactical is solid but maybe she needs an extra one she can send out. The ult needs more distance.
  • @1ronKeysI thought I heard that they are going to buff her soon.
    Passive isn't overly helpful and I don't find myself using it much.
    Tactical is good but could be buffed a little. Faster, tighter, larger AOE, &/or longer duration.
    Ultimate is a poor man's Wraith ultimate. Probably give it a buff similar to Pathfinder's grapple.

  • 1ronKeys's avatar
    1ronKeys
    2 years ago
    @HappyHourSumwur Yeah I agree.

    A tight hold on that snare to really "pin" an enemy. Its only really effective on people who are first time caught by it. You panic and run stuck with back to enemy.

    If you turn and face you have enough movement to dodge.

    Maybe keep the current diameter of it, but keep people sloww slowed. Or slow but tighter diameter otherwise people can just strafe spam anyway
  • AymCTL's avatar
    AymCTL
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    I like using Ash, but I agree, her abilities are lacking.  I think she's the next legend they should give the "reborn" treatment the way they did Revenant.

    The snare should do something closer to what Valkarie does with stunning the enemy.  Maybe give it a similar effect to an arc star with less damage.  

    The ultimate is similar to what wraith does as someone else mentioned except it only moves one way, I'm thinking maybe make it do more or go more often the way movement abilities on other legends like wraith, revenant, octane, horizon, etc.  Ash just has too long to wait to be able to move using the phase.

    I am glad I unlocked her though and the death box ability comes in handy.  I hope they buff her soon.

  • @AymCTL Agree!

    When I was looking at Ash, I personally wondered what it is about her that puts her in an Attack category as opposed to a skirmisher.

    I think they should make Ash the 'mobile attacker'.

    Potentially they could keep the ult the same but she gets to build up say 5 of them - like Vantage's sniper; so she can phase in and then back out (whilst keeping them 1 directional), but just give her more of them to use.

    And yeah I also considered the snare should maybe have a similar slowing to wattson fence but for the duration of the snare. So keeps them to a radius and slower movement.

    I've not made use of the deathbox thing yet - I keep forgetting about it.
  • every character ability is lacking compare to broken char like horizon/conduit anyway. 
    they broke the balance of the game long ago

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @1ronKeys One click, whole team in the air.....silently. Either beaming everyone or throwing the ult and 100 nades at your team. Oh and her passive gives her the best movement of any legend in the game and its always on. There's a reason she's almost 100% pick rate in scrims right now and used by most former wraith mains.
  • @hayhor Her tactical lasts really short tho. And just doesn't seem to do any real bother. Ou there she goes up in the air. Just shoot em down.

    Nintendo Duck Hunt.

    Her Ultimate caught me maybe once or twice firs time I felt panicked, second time nothing happened. All other times I've seen it it's never got me or seemingly anyone. I just don't see it.

    Maybe for the top 0.3% of players. I'm only like a top 5% by stats. By ratios I'm probably lower. But I drop with clueless saboteurs 80% of time.

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