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Eye_of_Horus_02's avatar
5 years ago

Can we please nerf Horizon to the ground?

She is such a broken char. dont know why they released her like this.  A hacker or a pro shes just way too much 15 sec. tactical she can fly and shoot and heal with it. So broken.. then you have loba and Pathfinder with a 30 sec small grapple/ring distance. 

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  • @Eye_of_Horus_02

    I like Respawn a lot. Despite my hatred for aggressive SBMM and the super inconsistent audio, I think they are a good development team.

    BUT I struggle to defend their approach to nerfing/buffing characters. Respawn spent a year and a half nerfing attributes of Wraith and Pathfinder. They then release a Legend with similar qualities to the ones they were trying to nerf!

    Horizon has the SECOND smallest hitbox in the game. It’s actually smaller than Lifeline and Wattson— and she doesn’t have Low Profile?!? This literally doesn’t make sense. Couple this with the cooldown and versatility of her tac and it’s literally no surprise she is now officially the strongest Legend in the game (as per Respawn’s data).

    I guess this makes sense from a business standpoint— they want people playing Apex to try the new powerful Legend, but it’s just silly for the overall balance of the game.
  • pastaclown's avatar
    pastaclown
    5 years ago

    @Axs5626Sxa5001 Respawn's great at being consistent with their inconsistency. Just look at their communication with us! (The following is an excerpt from a highly upvoted Reddit Post, a synopsis of my interaction with the community there.)

    "We wanna talk to the community more! We want to solve this issue that people feel we're ignoring them!" 

    Next week, an article comes out, "Respawn doesn't want to talk to anybody on Reddit cause they're all toxic!" 

    Me, an idiot: "Okay but what have they done outside of Reddit, or even on Reddit? They've had like, ONE AMA. They pop up once every 4 months and then disappear. All they do on Reddit is comment on Art, and occasionally bugs. Heck they don't even talk to us on the AHQ Boards, and we are near physically incapable of insulting each other. I called someone a clown and a moderator gave me a warning and removed my post." 

    Respawn Fanboys, intellectuals with PHDs for every conceivable degree, giga-brained Chads, overflowing with testosterone and muscle, possessing impossibly huge dongs, just DRIPPING with intelligence: "Uhhh you're toxic and you're defending people sending death threats to the developers. Why do you hate Apex so much? None of your criticism is valid because you, personally, and everyone who criticizes Apex, are super toxic. Just stop playing since you hate the game so much." 

  • @Eye_of_Horus_02 I think Loba is going to be getting Buffs in the future. It would not surprise me if Horizon gets nerfs in the future. Her overall Stats clearly show it's required.

    I think a bigger cool down on the tactical would help. I also think some adjustments to the ult could be useful. Either give players more of a warning to get out of the way or trim down on the health of the drone.
  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    5 years ago

    @pastaclown"Respawn doesn't want to talk to anybody on Reddit cause they're all toxic!" I can understand this sentiment if true.

    I have had a few people from the forum unload on me in game and I'm not even an EA employee! I went to game with them and soon as we got in match it was non-stop complaining. But it was done in a very harassing and degrading way. Some of the things they would ask me I could not answer for different reasons. They would then tell me I was dumb because I could not tell them what they wanted to hear. 

    The way some people provide feedback is just plain abusive. "you're stupid why would you think this is a good idea" that kind of thing is not required. People can provide feedback without beating up the Devs. Just say hey, I think this is an issue and this is why.

  • pastaclown's avatar
    pastaclown
    5 years ago

    @DarthValtrex I noted that in my Reddit post, but I also noted there were a ton of people who put forward their criticism in polite, well structured ways without insulting people or the devs or anything. Civility is paramount, everyone should be able to disagree on things (within reason) and remain civil about it (within reason!). 

    Of course, the halfwit on Reddit responded with, "All criticism is bad because people TOXIC" 

    Toxicity is everywhere, but Respawn has done pretty much nothing to amend the communication issue, so they're reaping what they let fester. 

  • @Eye_of_Horus_02 The bigger issue is her lack of sound when she is behind you. I really think it is not her kit at all. Think about when you die to her. It is always when she flanks or comes from the back. And you never hear her. Her tactical needs to make a lot more noise.