Caustic is so bad and useless now
i had like four traps down the elevator right next to each other, and i used the caustic alt that landed right on a team getting gassed by literally four traps, and i shot at them who landed right o...
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@Darkforest5777 That example is not very good. You died cause rather than shooting you decided to take the time to toss your ult even tho you already had barrels going. Gas damage has never stacked so taking that time is what did it. As ugly wraith said even high damage gas would not have helped. Perhaps if the gas still blinded enemies there may have been a chance but an enemy with decent awareness would have recognized the small opening where you were and could have guess shot you.
@hayhor As a Caustic main I share his sentiment.
It's not the deterrent it used to be. I've engaged against people/squads who are quite happy to stand in the gas and get on with it. There is no sense of urgency to get out of it like there used to be. It's frustrating as that's the whole point of Caustic... to discourage people from entering a zone or engaging with you or force them to relocate/panic to even the odds (gas grenade can turn a 1 v 3 into a 1 v 1 very quickly, or at least it used to).
The traps should have consequences. They don't anymore. As a Caustic main with 2800 kills I can say from first hand experience I have noticed the difference. It's discouraging.
There seems to be a move to "dumb down" the game and hamper any sort of ability/playstyle other than the shoot-shoot-shoot meta.
- DR
They could’ve at least increased the damage to 7 this Genesis event but they didn’t even touch him. The same goes with Wattson. They even had the audacity to make a “funny” joke in the patch notes.
- @Cheese9Man Yeah, that joke was ill-advised really. They should know that the current state of legends like Wattson and Caustic are a sore point with a lot of us and poking us with a stick isn't a good idea. They didn't learn from watching that Blizzard guy on stage with his "Do you guys not have phones?" thing from a few years back.
They clearly don't know what to do with Caustic and are too scared of the minority of people who complain about anything that messes with their meta playstyle. Its at the point now where I had always thought grabbing Caustics heirloom would be a no brainer if the mythical shards ever drop for me but these days I would probably just hold on to them and wait because I have little faith that they will fix him, or that whatever changes they make would last longer than a month or two before getting nerfed again.
- @RockDokRock I am a caustic main with about 500 wins so I think I actually have more experience with him than you. My experience goes back to when he could throw barrels through window slats until the current state so I've experienced it all.
Yes caustic has taken a beating both in direct and indirect nerfs. The biggest nerf is the move to all other characters having mobility while caustic is gigantic with no mobility.
My point still stands tho, the OP example video shows how people blame nerfs when it is a tactical mistake that got them killed.
@hayhor wrote:
@Darkforest5777That example is not very good. You died cause rather than shooting you decided to take the time to toss your ult even tho you already had barrels going. Gas damage has never stacked so taking that time is what did it. As ugly wraith said even high damage gas would not have helped. Perhaps if the gas still blinded enemies there may have been a chance but an enemy with decent awareness would have recognized the small opening where you were and could have guess shot you.The traps and the alt alone would have killed them all before. The point I am making is the traps do nothing for damage now.
- @Darkforest5777 The damage never stacked. As ugly wraith said even at 16 damage a tick you would have lost the fight.
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