6 years ago
CHARGE RIFLE
The new CHARGE RIFLE weapon is too strong, should be from the drop like Mastiff or kraber, everyone is running with this rifle now.
@DoYaSeeMeare you playing on PC? I have downed people in close ranged with CR while they used PeaceKeeper, so imo it is as OP as people say (if people have a good aim) - and I dont have a god like aim, I´m a casual player. Long range its broken beyond anything, you know when you can down 3 squads with purple armor from half across the map with 0 risk. Imo nerf CR to the ground, bring back hopup on Longbow.
Or if you dont belive me, try listening to the best players in the world and what they think. Most of them refuse to even pick it up due to how broken it is (granted that people have a decent aim).
There's really no question that CR is atrociously bad in CQC. CQC is all about higher dps. CR has one of the lowest of all weapons.
I've killed ppl with bare p2020 or mozambique vs R99 or PK countless times too. That still doesn't mean I would ever choose those weapons XD. Same goes for CR. It's a weapon for 200+ meters. You really need to be desperate to use it in CQC.
@Biochemikas Its far better than Longbow in CR, its also far better in long range. Since it is far easier to land shots with a hitscan than projectile. You can even swap to CR in close range to last hit the enemy easy - compare that to doing the same with Longbow.
So why did they remove Longbow from the meta just to replace it with an braindead weapon that exceels it in every aspect?
Potential nerfs I see is make it into a carepackage weapon, since its on the same level as Mastiff (but in long range). Bring back SP hopup for longbow.
Longbow is technically better if you headshot with ADS. But yeah, unsurprisingly another low dps sniper is also bad for CQC XD. If we compare to snipers, then TT and G7 are much better than charged rifle for CQC, but they still have no chance against R99 or PK (assuming equally skilled opponents and similar situations).
Longbow is still the best mid-long range sniper, if you can hit your shots. G7 dominates close-mid range. Charge rifle only shines at ultra-long range.
So no it clearly does not "excel" in every aspect.
Is it's ultra-long-range performance problematic? Yes, I think so. It's not supposed to be that easy to do that much damage across the map. Is it's performance in 100-200m range problematic? No, it's not. It still loses any higher dps weapon.
As for your "pro" complaints... They usually come from ppl that run either R99+PK or Wingman+PK - they would complain about ANY sniper when they have ranged encounters, because their loadouts can't deal with that (and are not supposed to). So take their words with a big grain of salt. That's usually even funnier when they still manage to close every gap and dominate with their CQC loadouts... You might say long range weapons need a buff in general, if a full CQC loadout can cross 500m completely open area and still get the kill on ppl shooting at them.
Afaik Charged rifle is getting a damage dropoff to curb it's problematic ultra-long range performance. I just hope it's mild enough to not turn it into single-fire havoc (that does absolutely no damage at range due to insane damage dropoff).
@NitromethaneAPPC. I used PK and Longbow a lot (A&D was my favorite mode so far) and I have decent aim. CR is among the worst weapons for CQC.
Also, I've heard a few opinions from certain streamers, I think Shroud doesn't consider it that op either. Anyway, I'm talking with the average player in mind, that doesn't have a strong professional bias as the best of the best.