Cheater cries boo boo (Dexerto)
So a Faze boy got banned on Fortnite for aimbotting. And then goes boo boo, "#FreeJarvis" say all the "pro" players. When is this going to happen to Apex streamers who may or may not be openly aimbo...
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Let me guess, you guys are console players? :D
I´ll try to explain.. Even the most sophisticated cheats out there can be spotted from 8-16h gameplay (it goes even faster if you have an admin actively monitoring the person - as you do in LAN tournaments). You basically look at the patterns of how someone is aiming (wrist/elbow) patterns in micro flick / flick and tracking. You also need to know the persons dpi/sens. Now, most Apex streamers (PC) have actually been to LAN tournaments - and cheating there is basically very very hard.
Have there been streamers who cheated - yes. But they eventually got caught. Are the big Apex Streamers cheating - no.
People even claimed that the majority of streamers were cheating when they reduced muzzle flash... ONE streamer used ALT+F4 once after getting killed by an aimbotter and people go bananas (he didnt exploit it like the ones who got banned, those were players that used it more than 10-50 times).
I think these claims show more about your own insecurity than anything else. I can understand that most console players - having no experience in PC gaming can think that they are cheating, since they cant understand anything that goes into aiming with a mouse (what is actually possible - and what stands out). Most of them actually think that micro flick is aimbot...
There is a thing we call "a losers mentality" that is a player who always blames other things for his own failure. Anything in life, its someone else´s fault. They cant be a streamer, because streamers cheat. A winner is someone who studies the best, learns and adapts (they invest time into learning how some have gotten a god aim, and they eventually become really good).
Not saying that we should all be naiv - but try to understand that most of these have invested almost their entire Lifes at games - and they have ALOT to lose, more than you ever will have. So be careful with these accusations when you do not have any proof what so ever...
@NitromethaneAPLolz it’s so fun when someone’s assumingly questioning someone else’s position when they themselves conclude their monologue with ‘So be careful with these accusations when you do not have any proof what so ever...’. Also fun to see that you seem ALOT more, apparent from your post, certain and aware who did something in the past and who didn’t and who still does. Care to fill ppl in how you observe dozens of ppl’s hands at the same time while knowing what their pc is running?
Competitions? Nobody’s talking bout that here I think. They are talking about the venue they’re most at home at; home gaming. Athletes use dope too and get caught even tho ‘they have invested almost their entire lives to [insert sport]’
It’s not called a ‘loser’s mentality’ cause that only applies to the disposition of losing which isn’t the issue here. I think you’re going for the ‘blamer mentality’, but that’s not the case here, as people are just talking about 1 event and what they witness other’s doing which may be true or not, not about own experience and why they lost due to something beyond their control.
From what I know 2 of the participants on this thread play on console but also own a gaming pc and know the workings of a pc... so yea...@Koochi-Q their gameplay did not differ from streaming compared to the LAN tournaments. So that argument is invalid. Also most streamers actually show their hand/mouse...
Its merely a name for a process that happens in people´s brains. Majority of people do not learn from their own mistakes - they always blame it away, a "winner" has another set of mentality - they can even learn from other peoples mistakes. People who showcase the "loser" mentality have already "lost" in life, and they wont succeed at anything. I bet the reason why most people think the streamers cheat is because THEY can never accomplish what streamers have done in their life´s - so the easy way out process in your brain will be to blame them instead of facing your own failure.Now if there was actual proof that the Apex streamers are indeed cheating - where is it?
- @NitromethaneAP So the same variables were present in both streaming and in tournaments? Enemies were in same spot, doing same thing and so on? I don’t think so...
Lolz yea... if it’s a layman’s term you can use it to describe anything in any way you want. I never heard someone with a psychological background use the ‘winner mentality’ so I’m not gonna take it as is, cause like I said, you can copy paste another definition to that word to let it mean something else.
Lolz ‘why most of you people think’ I giggled there cause there’s so much wrong in that sentence alone...
1) why you associate me with others cause I never said or acknowledged that streamers cheated
2) ‘most streamers’? Well that’s an overstatement as there are thousands of streamers and the indication of this thread was towards Apex pro streamers and even then no names were called so it’ll likely pertain to a smaller group
3) so because they are making money of streaming apex you think the people who responded in this thread can’t live up to the failure of ‘not being a streamer of Apex’ if I understand you correctly?
I can go on but I’ll leave it at that. If there’s actual proof of them cheating can be countered with, like you said. They can lose alot. IF they actually cheat (sometimes), they’ll likely go to great lengths not to get caught. But I think they’re just good at what they do. But seeing as I don’t watch other’s game which seems like a common occurence these days, I would have no idea.
- @NitromethaneAP That's an extensive counter argument just to be wrong.
It takes way more skill to be competitive at console than PC. Wirh binds, macros, and mouse+keyboard it's easy to be great at a game. But you won't see a PCer attempt the same on a console unless they have the mouse+keyboard attachments.
NitromethaneAP I've played in LAN tourneys, and it's very easy to cheat cause everyone is using the same ones and they're macro-bound.
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