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After hearing what is going on between devs and the community of the players this is one thing I would like to say. For one the devs are right people now are spoiled this is a free game to play they...
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@UnForgivenkills Agree and disagree. The players may have gotten a bit toxic (it was Reddit afterall) but they had every right to be angry regardless of whether they were dumb enough to blindly pay those outrageous prices or not and Respawn only added fuel to the fire there by throwing insults and reminiscing about times when players weren't so toxic, aka times before EA and lootboxes were in every other gaming news article.
Even the recent 'apology' looked insincere and just put out because they were ordered to.
Even the recent 'apology' looked insincere and just put out because they were ordered to.
@Pretzelnutcake No. You have no right to cry for free/ cheaper cosmetics in a F2P game. Period.
@budzaibut we do...
If we don't, they will only continue this practice of high expensive items and the game will die off.
Sure its only something cosmetic but players of all kinds love to show off their favorite outfits and enjoy seeing them on those Apex banners that are in game.
Fortnite makes load of money because they know how to price their items and because of that, many players buy the cosmetics and the game is still thriving because of the free loot that they also offer through their BP and the constant updates to better improve their game, instead of updates that tried to focus on your wallet.
Apex right now only offers a few skins through their BP and the much cooler ones are placed behind a huge pay wall. Sure you can buy the skins directly now but in the end, it all just cost more than before.- @iBlockHead No you don't. You should climb down to Earth from you tower kid.
How do you know this will kill the game? And if it will then what? You can go and play an another one.
You have no idea, how the apex community spends money. May be there are a lot of whales who spend huge amount and only a small percent of the community buy skins if they are cheaper, then it is understandable why the high prices. You know this is a business right?
Apex gives free loot through battle pass too. Iron crown event also have free loot boxes. As I have checked out Fortnite battle pass that doesn't give you that much free stuffs either.
Also Fortnite is an anomaly just like WoW was. So many games are made now days it is not a surprise some bad one gets popular.- @budzai you sound like a snob and attempting to talk with you any further will only result in the same mule responses.
Have an open mind and think outside those thick walls inside your head. Fortnite was nothing and became something and when they did, they added in skins for players to purchase so they can get more revenue and those skins were prices in a way everyone could buy them.
Apex did the opposite, they went towards the path of earning a lot of money in a short time rather than make more over the long run.
But again, you are too stubborn to think differently. As you say, "have a nice life", 'kid'.
- @budzai Have you played a game called Warframe? You can literally earn almost everything in the game (cosmetics,gear) just by PLAYING their game. It's run by a small indie company that gathered so much player goodwill over the years that people are literally buying stuff they can get just by playing the game simply to support the devs, and in return they're helping people who don't have the luxury of shelling out entire paychecks on videogames to also enjoy the good stuff too. Respawn is a bigger, more well known company run by EA who makes billions off their games yet they're overpricing and paywalling everything under the sun as if they're about to go bankrupt or something.
Don't forget that it's a free game by their choice and even though some of us don't spend money, the time we invest in the game has a lot of value that you clearly don't know about and neither does EA apparently.@PretzelnutcakeLOL
If you think the good stuff in a game is the cosmetics than you should change to an other hobby. And no I haven't played Warframe so I don't know who it works, but you know that's a different game and different people play it right?
Yeah it was their choice to make this game F2P, just how it is your choice to buy a cosmetic/lootbox or not. It is that simple: if they worth that much to you, you buy them, if they aren't then you don't buy them. But crying for free lootboxes, cosmetics (or about their prices) is just pathetic.
Oh yeah your time worth something? Yeah you are a playmate to the others. You want to get paid for it too? Do you also ask how much your time worth when playing a full priced game?- @budzai You're clearly too thick in the cranium to see things from any perspective but your own so I won't waste my time trying to reason with you, have a nice life
@Pretzelnutcake"even though some of us don't spend money, the time we invest in the game has a lot of value". So basically for playing their free game you expect a ton of free items to choose from? You clearly have never owned a company. Do you think if you sat in a McDonalds every day for 5 hours never spending a dime and then the owner came up to you and you said to him "Me sitting here using your bathrooms and water fountain adds a lot of value to McDonald's so I deserve a free menu item of my choice" that he would agree? And to say people are paying money for items in Warplane because they want to support the devs? No, its because they want instant gratification and don't want to grind it out they would rather buy it right now. If you think people are shelling out money because they love devs they have never met you are crazy.
- @budzai Don't feel bad, this is the theme with Blockhead and Pretzel. Pretzel complains about something and then when you disagree Blockhead says you are close minded and ignorant for not agreeing with their point. If i had to guess they both are run by the same dude that logs into a different account to try and show someone supported his comment lol.
- @Wreck_It_Lopers McDonald's and videogames are two different subjects entirely and shouldn't be compared. But to emphasize my point about playtime, aside from reviews what's the first thing you would check when deciding on whether or not you want to try out a new game? How active it's community is or in other words, playtime.
Also agreeing with someone frequently doesn't mean there's a secret agenda where we're actively trying to gang up on others or something, it just means we have similar mentalities, just like you agree with budzai's point of view. Either hold a meaningful discussion or agree to disagree and move on, there's no reason to get hostile towards eachother over things we can't even control or influence in the end
EA_BlueberryCommunity Manager
Hey Legends,
We know this is a hot topic within the community and we want to continue hearing this feedback. This is absolutely a great topic of discussion. There is no need to attack each other with personal insults though based off how they see value in something.
- @Wreck_It_Lopers It's not a theme.
I or anyone else in the community is asking for free items. We just want things to be reasonable and within reach. Not in the distance where only whales can get it.
Considering your responses to many things on the forums, you do not put much thought into what you post. Which is OK I guess.The only way to make this game Dev and gamers happy will be but compromise. I'm willing to make it more rewarding by rewarding the top 3 teams and maybe a monthly fee within reason. How many can agree on that?
@budzai wrote:
@PretzelnutcakeNo. You have no right to cry for free/ cheaper cosmetics in a F2P game. Period.For me it's not about buying or not buying. I've bought both seasons passes and "some" loot crates in the past, more so to pay Respawn for the enjoyment I have had out of a F2P game.
The Iron Crown event didn't have to be free, but looking at the big picture, and the time limit on the event, it's nothing short of over the top. I know I don't have to buy, and I'm all in favour of truly rare loot, but 22 items that have to be bought to be able to have the opportunity to buy an axe for a further £35.00? I love the game, and Respawn as a dev, but I cannot defend this.
Limited time on being able to unlock stuff to keep it rare? Yep. Charge for skins? Yep, but less of the loot boxes and more of the buy what you want. I'm also in favour of not everybody being able to acquire "everything all the time". This keeps certain content rare and I get that. Some skins maybe locked behind a challenge unlock, but not a pay wall.
What makes this even worse are the game bugs and issues. They need addressing before any event like I.C. Why pay top dollar (awy to much imo) for items in a game that isn't running great for a lot of people. Again I have defended this in the past, putting faith in Respawn to "get it right" but my faith and patience is being eroded.
The timing and pricing of this event is a bit of a train wreck imo. I want Apex to succeed. I'm willing to buy future BP's and other content, if they can get the core game working without the code errors, and inconsistent lag/servers/hit detection. I already have money invested in Apex but I will not part with anymore cash now until the fundamentals are resolved.
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