COMPLETLELY DONE with APEX S25
Every season u have high hopes it's getting better, but oddly every season seems to be worse than previous one... Matchmaking has never ever been so bad, SoloQ is completly ruined, TTK is such horror...
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After so many Iterations of Apex Matchmaking it should be obvious to everyone that this is all on purpose.
There is no reason to hide the MMR, otherwise they would do that in Chess too.
If somebody tries to cheat an open ELO System it will be obvious to everyone , the only reason to hide a Matchmaking Rating is to rigg it to your liking so nobody ever knows its been manipulated.
They will also remove RP out of thin air, similar to last season where they gave you only a fraction of the RP you earned, happend to me 4 times now. I was at 720 RP Plat 3, lost a game and ended up having 540 ... 180 RP down the drain instead of 45.
r1ggedgame Match Making is still somewhat secret as they can't really share that with us. If we knew exactly how it worked then people would just game the system; they do already to the best of their ability. The worst problem with multiplayer online games is the people; people are happy to screw over everyone else to make it easy for them (that's why you have cheaters or people who try to game the match making engine). Sad but true.
My experience has been mixed. Overall the matchmaking (I feel) is better; but I don't touch ranked, zero interest. I love the fact they at least show the layout of the lobby before you start; that's huge for me. Unfortunately I find I am usually rock bottom about 30-40% of the time which mystifies me (I usually get totally green team mates, not their fault and I try to help but there is only so much you can do when Loba has not figured out how to open her shop, etc). Frustrating but what can you do?
Then tell me why no large scale "gaming" of the system happens eg. in Chess and other Sports ? Bcs its an open system for everybody to see and People trying to manipulate can be spotted from miles away.
There is no other reason to hide it other than internal manipulations.
And the massive amount of MM complaints over the years lead only to 2 speculations :
a) Its either not working as advertised and has major flaws which they could not fix after 6 Years (hardly believable)
or
b) its rigged
Especially the whole AimAssist Controversy told us that Respawn sat on the Data for years and did not act while still talking "competitive integrity" up until their hand got forced by R5Reloaded and all of a sudden changes were applied which they always told us couldnt be applied in the 1st place ...
Its because of that History Players dont trust the company anymore.
And you admitted yourself, you dont know how the MM feels in Ranked.
I can tell you when you get bad team mates for 30 games in a row while being right in the middle of the rank spectrum , that does i no way resemble a bell curve. i should have at least got 2-3 Matches with mates higher skilled than me, but thats not the case.
Occams Razor my friend : If it feels rigged, its most likely rigged.
Patents like EOMM. the nasty Activision Patent or alike show that Industry is more than willing to rigg the outcome for Revenue sake. And i dont think Respawn is the exception to the Rule."Then tell me why no large scale "gaming" of the system happens eg. in Chess and other Sports?"
Those kinds of endeavors play out on a very public stage where anyone trying to sandbag in order to play lesser opponents would, as you say, be spotted a mile away. In the anonymity of online multiplayer gaming there are a lot of people who treat rank or mmr manipulation as the "real" game, or who, at the very least, have integrated those behaviors into their gaming to a level that might seriously surprise you. There's a reason why the vast majority of players in a six year old game are playing on a secondary. There's a reason why cheaters are banned by the thousand. People are strange and will look for any advantage they can, unfair, illegal, unethical, punishable or not.
Newsflash ... there is also FPS onlinegames with a visible ELO/MMR Rating and the amount of lowballing MMR is very low.
And what do you get out of having a low MMR if you normally should have a higher one ?
A hand full of bot matches, bcs if you win those to0 easy , your MMR will likely rise again.
Dont think that is a good way to have fun in a game, throwing multiple games so you can get 2-3 easy ones.
Hardly believable , lots of people would do that.
People would rather use "real" cheats to advance in a game instead of trying to lower their MMR
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