The market and ingame currency here is totally whack. 1200 minerals for a skin, which would be fine if we actually earned minerals at a reasonable rate or awarded them at a reasonable rate when we do in fact decide to to spend money on coins. Simple fix: Increase mineral rates or allow specific skins to be purchased with EA Coins as well. As a consumer I would be much more willing to spend money on specific coins instead of lottery packs. Either way you win. Please address this. Right now its totally ridiculous. Hell you could even sell a " Mineral 4 bour buff" for a like 400 coins where you earn x amount of minerals per kill, game survival and rank etc etc. Purchased 2150 coins for 17.99 Traded 2150 coins for 21 Apex packs and received the following:Minerals 300Legendaries 3Epics 5Rares 25Ridiculous that it would take me near 80 USD to be able to purchase the ONE cosmetic for ONE character. Its a bit extreme at this point. And as you add more legends to the roster as we earn less and less packs as we level up it kind of makes the no duplicate system irrelevant. I cant even fathom the calculation of grinding Apex Packs for 1200 minerals. All just for 1 skin/cosmetic. That will be the last 20.00 I spend on Apex packs, however god knows how much you would of taken off me if I could actually purchase specific items. Like most consumers that spend money, I like to know exactly what Im purchasing.

THATS WHY U NEVER SPEND MONEY ON MICRO TRANSACTIONS. [Edit - Admin.]

@addhoc micro transactions are always RNG.And as far as I can tell you only get minerals from duplicates.So the more packs you open the higher your odds are on getting a duplicate.My biggest concern with the currency system is the quanities offered in the micro transaction store. A store skin costs roughly 1,800 coins.That means you will have to buy 2,000 coins.And waste 200 of them, 200 coins equals 2 ,- euro.You can buy a crate for that, but I don't want a crate. I just want that one particular skin.You're forced to spend more than you need.And that's why I won't invest anything in to the game, until they manage to release something with a fair price ratio.I'm all down for supporting the developers and this product.But it has to be ethical.

glad to see the forums are still riddled with crap. *Provide a free game that surprised the [Edit - Admin.] out of everyone with how well it was put together**Get b*tched at for not putting enough in loot boxes**Get b*tched at for price of loot boxes**Get b*tched at for the lengthy grind it takes to get what people want*FFS....it's a free game and people are crying about the skins taking too long or costing too much to earn.

@odieman1231 wrote:glad to see the forums are still riddled with crap. *Provide a free game that surprised the f*ck out of everyone with how well it was put together**Get b*tched at for not putting enough in loot boxes**Get b*tched at for price of loot boxes**Get b*tched at for the lengthy grind it takes to get what people want*FFS....it's a free game and people are crying about the skins taking too long or costing too much to earn. So just because the game is free, no one is allowed to have any criticism?I really can't agree with that, they went free to play because its more profitable not because they are nice guys who work for minimum wage just so we could all play a great game together. Its a fact that free to play games earn more than buy to play games in the long run.But either way, even if we agree that we can let the ingame rewards slide, you are still saying that we shouldn't complain about the price of lootboxes which makes no sense.I don't like being treated like an idiot, but it seems like that's what they think we are when I look at their ingame store. I really love this game and I would have spend over 60€ already for sure if it was more reasonable.

I did buy EA coins for around 20 dollars, I did it to support a game I really enjoy.But I would rather buy skins I actually want directly then getting random loot - I'm not a fan of that and therefor I won't buy any more "packages" and hope they add skins to buy directly.

Currency Imbalance: Time vs Money vs Greed

45 Replies

Goodthrust
7 years ago
THATS WHY U NEVER SPEND MONEY ON MICRO TRANSACTIONS. [Edit - Admin.]
ZeroCool_GA
7 years ago
The apex packs are pure gambling. Lots of folks are against gambling. I don’t mind it but I’d rather buy items outright like you suggested.
I bought some packs to open 60plus, most likely * luck, but I noticed some trends.
I got a legendary skin for both caustic and mirage. (You need to purchase those characters) one other legendary skin for the robot character I used very little. The character I use the most I have the least stuff for.
Bad luck or is designed to make you spend more money for character unlocks so you can use the shiny things the apex crates gave you?
Im gonna lean on the bad luck side, but such a design from a free to play game would make sense to me also.
Im currently saving my crafting materials until I see what’s coming in the next season. The game is so new who knows what will change or be added.
Addhocc
7 years ago
I did it more as an experiment to see exactly what the odds were and payoff was. I totally agree. Then again its EA.
tooLuc1d
7 years ago
Yeah it's a shame. At first I thought the "system" was almost identical to Overwatch. Awesome, I thought. OW isn't perfect but it's the only lootbox/ micro transaction system I haven't felt like a complete as*hole for spending some money on. Ah well, no skins for me. Not going to get played.
Jultis
7 years ago
I bought the 2nd lowest coin pack as I like supporting a FtP game when it's as good as this. I'd probably spend way more money if I was able to buy skins and other stuff outright. (Scared to think of how much money I spent on LoL in the early days). Stacking out my favourite character would be too tempting. Buying packs to maybe get items for him, not so much. But then again i assume gambling rakes in more cash than a straight up cosmetic shop, in overall schemes of things.
MartenPhilip
7 years ago
@addhoc micro transactions are always RNG.
And as far as I can tell you only get minerals from duplicates.
So the more packs you open the higher your odds are on getting a duplicate.

My biggest concern with the currency system is the quanities offered in the micro transaction store. A store skin costs roughly 1,800 coins.

That means you will have to buy 2,000 coins.
And waste 200 of them, 200 coins equals 2 ,- euro.

You can buy a crate for that, but I don't want a crate. I just want that one particular skin.

You're forced to spend more than you need.

And that's why I won't invest anything in to the game, until they manage to release something with a fair price ratio.

I'm all down for supporting the developers and this product.

But it has to be ethical.
odieman1231
7 years ago
glad to see the forums are still riddled with crap.

*Provide a free game that surprised the [Edit - Admin.] out of everyone with how well it was put together*
*Get b*tched at for not putting enough in loot boxes*
*Get b*tched at for price of loot boxes*
*Get b*tched at for the lengthy grind it takes to get what people want*

FFS....it's a free game and people are crying about the skins taking too long or costing too much to earn.
xoxoxoxo0000
7 years ago
I agree, its ridiculous. I did buy 10 lootboxes and I'd like to spend much more money on the game, but unless things change, there is no way I'm spending any more money on this game.
The lootboxes are also overpriced for what they offer, most of the time you get crafting materials and 2 skins. Almost all of the skins are quick reskins and aren't worth any money.
xoxoxoxo0000
7 years ago
@odieman1231 wrote:
glad to see the forums are still riddled with crap.

*Provide a free game that surprised the f*ck out of everyone with how well it was put together*
*Get b*tched at for not putting enough in loot boxes*
*Get b*tched at for price of loot boxes*
*Get b*tched at for the lengthy grind it takes to get what people want*

FFS....it's a free game and people are crying about the skins taking too long or costing too much to earn.

So just because the game is free, no one is allowed to have any criticism?
I really can't agree with that, they went free to play because its more profitable not because they are nice guys who work for minimum wage just so we could all play a great game together. Its a fact that free to play games earn more than buy to play games in the long run.

But either way, even if we agree that we can let the ingame rewards slide, you are still saying that we shouldn't complain about the price of lootboxes which makes no sense.
I don't like being treated like an idiot, but it seems like that's what they think we are when I look at their ingame store. I really love this game and I would have spend over 60€ already for sure if it was more reasonable.
prankstar2
7 years ago
It tells you the probabilities right above where you purchase the packs, we don't need your chart.