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Koochi-Q
7 years ago

Differentiating randoms + lil rant

Well I’ve had it! New players (not entirely their fault. They’re new but have no business of being put in a game with ‘veterans’. And other than that, why play a months old free competitive shooter so late!), noob players, incompetent shooters, zero common sense humans, those apparent braindead zombies and the beautiful combination of 1 or more of these attributes. 

I get it, playing premade is better. SCREW that. I play with some ppl somtimes but they lack the skill or gamesense that I have (this is not glorifying myself). 1 guy finally had more dmg/kills than me and was so happy about it. Premade means nothing if you are a good player but play with people under your skill lvl, if they don’t listen. I’ve played with friends who weren’t the greatest but listened to my every word and we won alot. Also with friends of whom I know they got gameskillz but weren’t familiar with the game so they listened, same story. Premade squads have an advantage, yes, but I usually do premade with buddies just to talk and laugh while gaming. If they’re good, we go for rampage. 

I’ve played with some good randoms who afterwards invited me and we weren’t in Xbox Party, but we were a premade squad but we continued to kick * with no vocal communication involved. So randoms in general aren’t bad per se. If all of you know what you’re doing and are ‘aware’ of what the others are doing, it can be a fun experience that makes you think ‘yeaaa this is how it’s supposed to be’

it’s those ‘underperforming (to your skill lvl)’ randoms that give randoms that negative connotation. I already just play apex now for dailies and weeklies but even that can now sometimes feel like a drag when you get low lvl ppl and you have to rely on them, for example with the revive 20 ppl weekly where you see your teammate going down and disconnects right away. Fine, I D/C also when I see incompetence, but disconnecting when someone or both your teammates kill an entire team and and one is the kill leader in the first minute of the match and with nobody around? Come on, that’s just weird. 

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  • iBlockHead's avatar
    iBlockHead
    7 years ago
    @MandatoryIDtag no mic? that's when you use the amazing ping system it has.

    Won my fair share of games by only communicating through pings. I'm not much of a talker and find it odd to talk to randoms so I always stay mute but ping whenever I wanna communicate.
  • DadPhilly's avatar
    DadPhilly
    7 years ago
    So wat do u suggest?? Just run into a fight with zero weapons, no armor or grenades?? Wat a dumb suggestion. usually i need to run through 6-7 buildings to find a single gun with more then 1 clip of ammo. How about dont engage until your team has at least a basic loadout? If u get attacked because u were too far from your team and alone, guess who has "no clue"... Stick with team, use a mic, dont engage alone and u will have a better time im sure. The WORST players are the marathon runners, they hog loot and rush alone die instantly and cry their team sucks, lol. Those guys are horrible, sometimes there are two and its like they are tryin to ditch the third guy, higgin all loot and rushing away to the next town before u can even find a single gun. In the end, if u dont use a mic u have zero right to say your team mates are the issue, ever. If u dont care why should they?
  • mastiffslinger's avatar
    mastiffslinger
    7 years ago

    After the start of season 2 all of my friends have quit Apex. They are not coming back. Some are on PUBG others Fortnite and some Black Ops 4. I have been playing straight random games for about 2 weeks now. It has been frustrating at times and rewarding at other times. I have found the bad thing for me in randoms is if I have a bad game it reflects that my skill level or game awareness is crap. Usually it is because my pitbull decided to jump in my lap while I was just targeting someone in the distance and popped a shot off over their head. More likely I just had a case of first person shooter jitters whichever the case I suck sometimes and will be the first to admit it. Playing pre-made allows for some forgiveness, but in randoms well you are only as good as the current game. 

    Randoms are just that random, some good some bad but like all things on a curve the majority of players fall in the middle. The biggest problem is playstyle, there is no factor given when going into a lobby to get teammates that have your playstyle.  For me I play differently almost every game, if I have white shied and a p 2020 and a longbow or triple take I am going to be seen as a camper edge guarding the storm. Loadouts and gear will always direct how I play, I am simple that way. Now I have 2 teammates in this same scenario who have the good fortune of purple shield and kitted 301's or whatever they fancy, they push a squad and I am sniping I will not cower away I push with them and turn my sniper into the most brutal shotgun I can wield. I will probably go down, it happens. 

    My point is everyone plays how they play, you can either adapt "your" play to theirs as much as you can or you can try to force "your" style on them. I have played with several randoms lately who had several thousand kills, some were good teammates some were bad. The worst thing you can do as a teammate in this game is run off with no pinging and expect your teammates to read your mind. My wife will attest to this, I CAN'T READ MINDS. 

    I don't particularily enjoy the random games, but I have zero interest in finding a bunch of new people to play with on a game I might not be playing a month from now. Just my opinon on it, so I will random until I get burned out on all of the disconnects, jumping hopping players and just move on to something more relaxing. 

    If any of you ever wind up playing with me let me apologize up front if I have a bad game. BTW on a side note I am not stealing anyone's kills just as they are not stealing mine,it is a team game right, trackers aside who gives a crap? I have a decent amount of kills already 1 or 4 more aren't going to make me a better player. 

  • VisualfEX's avatar
    VisualfEX
    7 years ago

    I don't play ranked but then complain about bad randoms...Well jeez...Can't fathom why this would be happening...Maybe because anyone who has improved or WANTS to improve is only playing ranked grinding for the cosmetics and gear. Granted beginning of ranked til high plat/diamond will still be terrible players, but if you actually want to start getting some decent randoms ranked is the only place your going to encounter them. Yes there are still good players that play casuals for fun or just to warm up. But overall if you really want decent players you've got only two options (this is the same for every game) play ranked or pre-made. Play LoL casually you get monkeys trying weird stuff in the JG or in lanes. Play CSGO casually you get botters/hackers and new kids that couldn't afford the game before it went F2P. Overwatch?! lmao won't touch that one.

    Overall nothing is different here, competitive games will ALWAYS favor a premade squad because you have players with the same mentality as you and working towards a similar goal. Playing casually or with randoms you'll encounter a bunch of people high or drunk just gaming out for funsies and don't care if you win or not (especially in casual since it has 0 effect at all) If there was a way to waste your life it would be to play this casually since you get nothing from it at all.

    The only issues I have mostly now a days in ranked is just the campers. Luckily I'm D3 now and we (smart) which is a bit different than just hiding in a hole from the moment you drop. But those are annoying because you'll be mid firefight and they just run so they can wait on placements. Which I can't complain about because then I just make some food and watch a show until they die and get free points.

    **Also for anyone that no longer has friends playing, I'll say this. It is a TERRIBLE idea to count on your IRL friends to stick with a game as long you plan to stick with it. Most likely people generally don't game as much as you (ME) and will give up on a game long ago because they are more casual players just looking for fun. The best place to find actual squads that will stick around longer is the Discord channel they have. You can get a squad of pretty chill good players within 30 seconds tops and get into winning. Most don't require that you even communicate as long as your decent and make basic call outs that'll be good enough.

  • Koochi-Q's avatar
    Koochi-Q
    7 years ago
    @jumanjaydazed Lolz I’ve been in HS and uni too, those ppl have way more times on their hands than ppl know :P it’s not even break yet! Why play now and not months ago! :P and HS/uni don’t usually wake up at 6-9am to play :P

    For all the other comments, thank you for taking the time to write your thoughts but basically I don’t care being put with randoms. I can even tolerate bad randoms once in a while. But with the millions of players, how can you get into 15 bad matches one after the other. It’s just maddening. Playing like 5 games after each other and you get like 15-20 kills in those matches while the combined kills of your teammates aren’t even 10 -_- it’s just shady as hell.
  • Anlbrd's avatar
    Anlbrd
    7 years ago

    I think from now on if someone posts saying "ran through 7 buildings and couldnt find armor/weapon" without having a link to a recording of it, the forum should autofilter the sentence out and replace it with "Hyperbole is the BEST THING EVER!1!1!!elevendyone!11ZOMG!".

  • Koochi-Q's avatar
    Koochi-Q
    7 years ago
    @jumanjaydazed Lolz it really depends on time of day. If I play between 5-7am I randomly mostly (like 80%) people level 20 and below... and they act like level 20 and below so no duplicate account. During 10-2pm mostly 20-40 and after 2pm all kinds basically. But oh well.

    @Anlbrd lolz my record is having ran through 5 buildings with no weapon. Last night it was amazing tho, landed in artillery, did the one artillery building (have no idea what such a building is called) on the left, from top to bottom, no and I mean no weapon xD. My teammates got chased out of the other one without securing a weapon so we were basically weaponless and running towards the small building at the top of artillery, 2/3 weapons in that small building XD.

    I did however had a fully kitted weapon due to the no-weapon building having all kinds of attachments
  • chrisragnar's avatar
    chrisragnar
    7 years ago

    Only maby every 30th game or something, maby less, i have teammates that do more or about equal dmg as me. And i cant see any correlation with people's levels.

    And im just a decent player (900-1400 dmg on wins.)

  • Wingmannedbro's avatar
    Wingmannedbro
    7 years ago
    @Koochi-Q wrote:
    @WingmannedbroAka brain dead + no common sense zombie >.> yes I know the feeling. BUT I do do this sometimes; I know enemies are nearby, I calculate the odds of winning against them and decide to go. I ping enemies here + let’s go there, one of them follows and other goes for the attack alone, completely disregarding my follow up ‘lets go here’... gets killed by a 3 man team... then my next teammate wants to go for a respawn pick up while I’m thinking ‘nooo... you showed promise!!!’ and dies... and I’m like ‘yup, f y2 and just leave match’ no matter if we’re 3rd, 7th, 18th.

    Yeah but what I am taking about is when an enemy team has the drop on you, and has surrounded at a building because they spotted you and closed on while you were unaware until you heard 3 enemy footsteps close by, and then run and evade for half a minute while your zombie team mates are pinging loot a stones throw away.

    I'm not talking about me making a dumb push and my team mates retreating.

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