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asukojo
5 years ago

Empty Promises and False Hope. #SaveApexRanked before it's too late.

@EA_David @EA_Kent Message from NRG_Sweet : https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sro7gg Cheater not only blatantl cheat, they will DDOS if they get killed, they can also ROB your precious RP    -800...
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asukojo
5 years ago

1. Hiring more people is expensive. Sweet recommend to distribute that authorithy to responsible streamers, much cheaper and more efficient. Of course there's a risk of bias and abuse of power. Well, you need police supervisor (hideout) to check their work. 

2. Detect DDOS is easy since it's happening in front of your face and bad guy most likely inside the lobby himself.

    Catching greedy cheater one is easy since he got the most RP during the attack.

    Stopping future DDOS is much harder since attacker is smart one, this will be long battle.

3. Investigating ways to more quickly catch and remove cheaters from games.

        - If remove from rank, that's easy. 1st is increase the rank requirement for each level , the higher the rank, the higher level require. 

          Then remove ability to bunny hopping by using your team mate to shortcut to higher rank. Bronze cannot team with diamond/master to join predator lobby.

        - Since every bullet already tracked by server, all abnormal bullet is cheating. bullet that bend or acting like torpedo.

        - Since every gun has own characteristic, all abnormal gun behaviour is cheating such as gun that tracking the enemy head.

         - etc

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DoYaSeeMe
5 years ago
@asukojo Streamers as anti cheat authority is a pretty bad idea. Not only that they are strongly biased, but they also don't have enough available time to do proper police work (as it means sacrificing the majority of their play time), they lack developer knowledge (tools, methods, coding, etiquette, etc.) and they are vulnerable (a lot of them had their accounts hacked, their connection killed, etc.). It would be pretty easy to have anti cheat stuff fall into the hands of hackers with all these insecure points.

The fight against DoS and DDoS did not start with Apex, it's been going on for decades. Respawn had this fight going on since Titanfall and there are rumors it might be some of their former colleagues that exposed some vulnerabilities or vital info, probably regarding their engine.

Also, these type of attacks aren't that easy to spot. Thousands of players connecting at the same moment can resemble an attack, so if they make the system more sensitive, it would result in a lot of players not being able to play during peak times. Another things about these attacks is that they don't always need to be targeted at the game's servers to do damage. AWS is dealing with some of the biggest attacks pretty often.
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    dougieee
    5 years ago

    Ive had this argument in other forums regarding other games.

    ive been told to report to PUBG shield, hideouts in apex..............

    Does anyone see the insanity of this?

    The onus of anti cheat slips away from the developer into the public domain (often free work).

    The devs must laugh all the way to the bank..... Its THEIR game, cheating is THEIR problem, its not my problem to have to waste time recording cheats, going through the effort of sending it.

    This is a globally systemic problem and its certainly NOT down to individual players, streamers or content creators to fix or even help reduce.

    I wonder how much investment EA has in pushing out constant new content for you to fill their coffers up with compared to something that ACTUALLY urgently needs addressing like cheating.........

    You know what, forget it, keep buying new skins to dress up your dollies, EA needs your money people!

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