FPS Strike pack / Cronus / XIM, etc.
Warning: tl;dr. I've been a ghost on these forums and across social media in general for the last year, specifically in the silent hope of finding some concrete, credible response from someone "in t...
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Yeah i'm pretty sure that use of mouse converters is actually allowed. At least the transceiver part of it, not sure what their stance is about the rapid fire macro and no recoil aimlock those things have.
They have been dodging those questions like Neo dodges bullets in the Matrix.
But i doubt that either of those two macro's is what you actually see. They're very bad in my opinion.
Anti recoil script for example completely locks the reticle in place, this also means you cannot even more the cursor whatsoever, would only work on a target that stands still entirely, which nobody does, and is more to get you killed if you get attacked while shooting since you will be unable to even respond to it.
If you already use a mouse tranceiver anyway, it's actually much better to just rely on mouse aim.
@Wingmannedbro So it's evident based on some of your responses that you're a XIM (mouse) user. I'm not really referring to that as being the biggest problem, of course providing the recoil is the same for you, and there are no rapid-fire macros enabled, etc. If, however, mouse users gain an advantage through being able to adjust and compensate for recoil far easier than possible on console, then I'm sorry but it's just simply not fair.
We're not talking about one player using a Dualshock 4 and the other using a Scuf here. We're talking about people using a modification to play others online that is still not actually allowed under the T&Cs and therefore must be added using a third-party method, and that's why it's a problem. It means that not everyone can just go to the store and come home with a PS4 mouse and keyboard and plug it in to "git gud", which means that people in the know, have that advantage over players that don't have the option.
Anyway I digress, I don't want to dissuade from my real problem which is anti-recoil. It's a cancer, it is in every single game I play now (and I'm really not exaggerating), it is GLARINGLY obvious and I'm immensely bored of players online being like "Bro it's called getting good and controlling recoil lmao". Because either they're trolling, fan boys, or the more likely option being they use the cheats themselves because they're equally cowardly and can't bear to admit it to the world because they'll be found out.
You head over to Twitch or whatever and see a lot of these streamers using the Strike Pack openly, encouraging people to buy it, claiming there are no repercussions etc. These people will be nobodies again if a ban comes into force, they'll be bang average at the game with no device keeping their aim steady for them, they'll all fade back into bitter anonymity whilst the rest of us can start enjoying true competition again and that'll be the most beautiful day since the game's release.
We're not talking about one player using a Dualshock 4 and the other using a Scuf here. We're talking about people using a modification to play others online that is still not actually allowed under the T&Cs and therefore must be added using a third-party method, and that's why it's a problem. It means that not everyone can just go to the store and come home with a PS4 mouse and keyboard and plug it in to "git gud", which means that people in the know, have that advantage over players that don't have the option.
Anyway I digress, I don't want to dissuade from my real problem which is anti-recoil. It's a cancer, it is in every single game I play now (and I'm really not exaggerating), it is GLARINGLY obvious and I'm immensely bored of players online being like "Bro it's called getting good and controlling recoil lmao". Because either they're trolling, fan boys, or the more likely option being they use the cheats themselves because they're equally cowardly and can't bear to admit it to the world because they'll be found out.
You head over to Twitch or whatever and see a lot of these streamers using the Strike Pack openly, encouraging people to buy it, claiming there are no repercussions etc. These people will be nobodies again if a ban comes into force, they'll be bang average at the game with no device keeping their aim steady for them, they'll all fade back into bitter anonymity whilst the rest of us can start enjoying true competition again and that'll be the most beautiful day since the game's release.
No, it is not evident from my responses i am a Xim user, I don't even play Apex, I play Fortnite with a mouse and keyboard natively.
But mouse transceivers have been around for quite a long time now, it's completely above ground, the demonstration and instruction video's can be viewed by anyone on Youtube, as well as the buyers reviews.
I have seen them, and im telling you straight up that no recoil don't work the way you think they do, and if you see players in games who seem to have little to no recoil, they probably use a mouse.
No recoil scripts don't allow the user to move the reticle, I have stated this before in my previous comment, if the people you spectate are able to move around their crosshairs while shooting to track running targets, that means they are NOT using no recoil scripts.
- @Wingmannedbro I can't really tell if you're even talking about the same problem here, because if you're referring to the anti-recoil on Strike Packs, like I am, then you should be aware that YES, THEY DO eliminate recoil. Have you ever seen one in action?
I recommend watching any of the umpteen videos on YouTube of players testing and recommending different settings for the Strike Pack. There are many videos showing the comparison between normal firing without touching the analogue stick, and firing using a mod without touching the analogue stick. It essentially ensures that each mod shoots any gun with pinpoint accuracy, so that when you DO use the analogue stick, the bullets laserbeam to the centre of your reticle every time.
This isn't really up for debate I'm afraid, because it is available for everyone to see and unfortunately even experience for themselves for a measly £40. There's a reason everyone is using them mate, and it's not just for the "extra paddles".
@littlxr wrote:
@WingmannedbroI can't really tell if you're even talking about the same problem here, because if you're referring to the anti-recoil on Strike Packs, like I am, then you should be aware that YES, THEY DO eliminate recoil. Have you ever seen one in action?I am literally facepalming right now. I have written 2 consecutive times now about how such no recoil scripts work, and that they suck really bad.
And yet here you are arguing that they do eliminate recoil, even tho i never said they did not, BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY CAN NOT, AND WILL NOT READ ANYTHING ANYONE WRITES.
Bye, you're impotent with rage, Anti recoil scripts are bad, they only work if you intent to shoot at a supply bin, a rock, or another object that doesn't move.
1 last time, Anti Recoil scripts DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO MOVE YOUR GUN ONCE YOU START SHOOTING, SO YOU CANNOT FOLLOW TARGETS AS THEY MOVE AROUND, THIS MEANS THAT THOSE SCRIPTS ONLY WORK ON SOMEBODY WHO IS AFK OR TRYING TO RECONNECT AND ON THOSE TARGETS YOU DONT BENEFIT FROM IT ANYWAY.
Hopefully you can read it this time, I tested anti recoil scripts personally, and they will absolutely make you lose more than win more.
Be my guest, use it, and see how good you think they are.
In a perfect word these cheaters would all be doxxed. Followed by a group of people visiting them. Then said group holding the offender down. While they use a pair of rusty pruning shears to clip off the pointer finger on both hands. Problem solved. 🙂
- @ColdHours Oh, at the very least, yeah.
Your information may be correct for the M&K / PC world but it is incorrect in regard to StrikePack macros on console. There are a myriad of YT videos showing StrikePack and other macro using add ons that cancel the recoil of Apex weapons. You have full movement capability and reticle control. The StrikePack uses a macro that mimics thumbstick movement exactly counter to the given weapons recoil pattern. If you add a barrel stabilzer for example and the macro is not set for it it well actual degrade your aim. As an Xbox player I dont recall ever running into the anti-recoil cheat but did report several ppl for the rapid fire cheat. The rapid fire macro cut the report of the shot short and you could hear the diffirance in a firefight. Since crossplay I run into no recoil cheaters fairly often. Apparently these StrikePacks are more prevelant in the Playstation community. If you watch a player, often after they have lasered you with the high recoil R99 from long distance, the use of the pack is pretty easy to spot. Because the recoil compensation is so good their reticle doesnt budge even during long bursts of fire. I follow both pro's and streamers and none of them have this level of recoil compensation. I generally report the player and then post a captured video on Apexes channel on Xvox live. I don't know that it makes a difference but eventually it will start hurting server pop levels and someone will do something
- @littlxr M&k aren't even that much of a issue. PC mixes both controllers and keyboard players.
Respawn has to do something about modded controllers and strike packs on console. I ordered a strike packs so I could get 4 extra buttons without have to pay $180 for an elite V2. And I have the ability to use those mods if I wanted.
I honestly got it so I could block and dodge easier in Final Fantasy 15 ><- @DankToliet Yeah, again, I'm not really referring to M&K, although if it has to exist, it should be native and not third party. It lies in the grey area of gaming in my opinion, because an average competent M&K player is always going to be better than a good console player due to sheer logistics. Wrist and arm aiming is lightyears above thumb aiming in terms of accuracy, I think we can all agree on that.
But again I digress, I am trying to mainly highlight Strike Packs and any form of anti-recoil as being the fundamental issue plaguing my enjoyment on this game.For anyone unaware of how this thing works and how effective it is.
Gamers are such a bizarre species. Half use cheats, and it's almost as though the other half would rather dig for a million different ways to tell someone to git gud than accept such cheats exist at times, even when faced with undeniable facts, statistics and evidence. So, so weird. Twitter is full of people claiming anti-recoil doesn't even exist. It really astounds me, and perpetuates the notion that absolutely squat will get done about it because "not enough people are complaining".
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