Honesty regarding Pathfinder Nerf
Whether you are for or against the Pathfinder grappling hook nerf, you HAVE to agree that nerfing ANY one character attribute by 133% in one update is not the way to respect a portion of any playerba...
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@Koochi-Q are we really comparing Mirage to Pathfinder now? Mirage, the character who's been underused since day one due to a terrible kit that wasn't useful for himself nor his team, to Pathfinder, a character with high mobility and usage due to having a functional kit that benefits both himself and his team? Seriously?
Also, you don't rip baindaids off, ever. You slowly remove them. When you rip any sort of bandage off your body, all you're doing is giving the wound a chance to reopen, which can lead to the same problems as when you got said wound. You don't rip a cast off, you don't tear off bandaids or wrapped bandages, you don't rebreak your leg to remove a splint.
People complain, that's what the boards are for, that's what the social media pages people have are for, and it's the developers job to listen to said complaint and figure out if they're justified or not. Instead we get developers who barely listen to anything, and shotgun whatever update they deem necessary and it's sad to see.
@pastaclown Lolz I love the fact that you assumed I was talking about Mirage. Hint, I was not.
Who says there was a wound? I just asked the hypothetical, do you rip it off slowly or fast. No one said anything about a wound.
Last I checked, this was a discussion board, not a complain one, so I don’t think these forums are for complaining, but discussing things. However, complaining might accompany them, but they’re not for that purpose.
Also, I don’t think it’s a dev’s job to listen to complaints. It’s a dev’s job to develop a game. Listening to the community either comes with the package of being a ‘good dev’ or they do it for whatever reason. But after they make the game, a dev’s job basically is done unless it’s an ongoing game in which case they shape it towards their goal. But I get your drift.
@the other dude... I have played neither. I lay my enemies to rest. But I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. So can you elaborate
Who says there was a wound? I just asked the hypothetical, do you rip it off slowly or fast. No one said anything about a wound.
Last I checked, this was a discussion board, not a complain one, so I don’t think these forums are for complaining, but discussing things. However, complaining might accompany them, but they’re not for that purpose.
Also, I don’t think it’s a dev’s job to listen to complaints. It’s a dev’s job to develop a game. Listening to the community either comes with the package of being a ‘good dev’ or they do it for whatever reason. But after they make the game, a dev’s job basically is done unless it’s an ongoing game in which case they shape it towards their goal. But I get your drift.
@the other dude... I have played neither. I lay my enemies to rest. But I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. So can you elaborate
@Koochi-Q you complain non issues out of the game til it is dry and everyone is running around doing the same thing and it turns into a moba and is boring. paths grapple was nothing. so what he runs away lol, so what he grapples in, kill him. play with ur team, it was a non issue i never thought about being OP. i thought it played perfectly into his aggressive role, wraith has q that makes her immune, path can die while grappling thats why its on low cd. path is not op lol even if path gets away you can see his team mates respawn in drop ship and the ring has to close eventually, paths problem was not his grapple
- @a24zxc5411011abx O-kay... and what does this have to do with what I said earlier since I still don’t see the point you’re trying to make in response to my comment?
If you said the previous thing to ppl complaining about him being OP for whatever reason I could find myself understanding your stance, but I’m not complaining about him being nerfed or him being OP. I am just glad that he finally got his tact reduced. Yet I have not complained about him being OP when he was his old self tho... - @a24zxc5411011abx - 1 You’re unhappy because now you have to be more conservative with how you approach your fights?
If you didn’t see a nerf to a character that had the most superior mobility in the game then that’s unfortunate.
What other legend can launch themselves so far as he can?
what other legends can take the high grounds so easily?
People cry when balance has been put into place because they cant abuse a broken ability.
Only a pathfinder can chase down a pathfinder. like some do agree his grapple should be somewhere near 25 seconds@ILikeGlueHmm yea god forbid legends be unique.
- @a24zxc5411011abx Tho path’s role description is ”forward scout”. Not much scouting can be done if you can’t get back from scouting your enemies.
- @Henkivexx It makes me wonder what they want Pathfinder to be.
His role use to unofficially be “mobile legend”. So to counter that, they fixed his hitbox, and made him take extra damage everywhere on his body. Now that he is 133% less mobile, does that mean they are going to revert the previous nerfs?
Or are we just going to be left with a large legend who takes extra damage and has less than half the mobility he use to?
@Koochi-Q maybe you should elaborate on your statements before making bogus "ha gottem" posts then. Letting people assume things then laughing at them for not getting what you're talking about is pretty pathetic. I'm not a mind reader, I think if you don't make your point clearly and effectively, you're not really talking or discussing it with someone, you're talking at someone.
If we're talking hypothetical, then the assumption is that you have a bandaid on, because you have a wound. Apparently in your hypothetical bandaids have some other use than keeping small wounds free of outside bacteria and debris. Bandaids are pretty specific. A general use bandage can be used for multitudes of things. Makeshift splints, applying extra grip on an object, stopping blood loss, etc. etc.
Complaints are part of a discussion. Not saying complaints are the ONLY thing that should be on a discussion board, but if a game has major issues, lack of communication from developers, and seasons of unfixed game-breaking errors, then you should be prepared for a lot of complaints. A developer who pushes out changes without talking about it, without communicating with their player base, without any fore-word or warning just to keep their social platforms free of complaints is no better than fake reviews on terrible products. On top of that, if it's not a developer's job to listen to complaints / criticism / reviews of the product they release, then whos is it?
- @pastaclown Or... here’s something worth thinking about. Try asking beforehand for more info so you can understand what someone is doing? Did you think about doing that? I was being vague for a reason because I wanted to see the OP’s stance without revealing my own, unless he saw my other post regarding the matter. As you said, you’re not a mind reader, so try asking for more details next time. It might work better.
Hahaha you accuse me of doing something while this is the second time you do it, while me not playing that game at all. I’m not making ‘ha gottem’ posts... I made a ‘food for thought’ post and I even said it because I wanted to know what that person was thinking to better understand his train of thought. The other posts I’ve seen regarding pathfinder were all whiny post without substance. This one actually seemed worth discussing about.
There comes the assuming again but in this case it’s actually warranted. But not all ppl wear a bandaid on an open wound. Some just have a small cut, others have irritated skin or you have people like rapper Nelly who just wear them for whatever reason.
Isn’t that what I just said? That it can be part of discussing (I vaguely remember me saying so)? So many devs push out new content without explicitly discussing them beforehand. Sometimes it’s taken well, sometimes not so much.
I think complaints are more for helpdesk and such which relay the info to the devs and they do what they see fit for chances. But that’s just my take on it.Or, you can do what I do, which is to make a clear concise statement and not play devil's advocate. If you want someone's opinion, ask them for it rather than running around in circles making vague statements in order to figure out what someone is thinking. This isn't person A trying to figure out if person B is a homophobe. This is a discussion board for a game, you should've explicitly expressed who or what you're referring to. You don't have to backtrack and say you're vagueing to see what OP's opinion is, because they've made their opinion. They don't like how the nerf was carried out. You made yours, you like how it was carried out.
OP's Opinion: "Whether you are for or against the Pathfinder grappling hook nerf, you HAVE to agree that nerfing ANY one character attribute by 133% in one update is not the way to respect a portion of any playerbase. I’m thinking they could have achieved this more gradually over time as opposed to dropping a bomb on Pathfinder mains. "
Yours: "Path was overdue a nerf for seasons now. All in one go now. Beautiful. No dilly dallying, just cut off the leg and be done with it style."
There's also a big difference between, "I'm confused and want you to elaborate more on this particular matter." and, "I don't understand who or what you're referring to as important context in this discussion." The former would have someone ask your for more information. The latter should've been expressed in the context of the post.
"Last I checked, this was a discussion board, not a complain one, so I don’t think these forums are for complaining, but discussing things. However, complaining might accompany them, but they’re not for that purpose." The complaints are the topic of the discussion, it has been ever since the game came out. Complaints about terrible teammates, the SBMM system, ranked cheaters, hit-reg issues, lag, unstable servers, etc. etc. have all been topics of discussion. Not a part OF A discussion, but THE discussion itself.
Perhaps if you were less vague this discussion would go more smoothly. As it stands, all the inferred tone I'm getting from you is a "holier than thou" attitude. I'm no stranger to microaggressions.
"As you said, you’re not a mind reader, so try asking for more details next time. It might work better."
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