Honesty regarding Pathfinder Nerf

I don't agree with the nerf because it is the character concept that leads to the problem

Anytime you have a character that's biased to single play in a team based game, it's going to be bad.  Even though Octane isn't OP, he's in the exact same boat as far as the popular choice for people who want to play alone in a team game.  Loba will soon be the same way, the old Wraith was too.

That' not really going to ever change unless you actually change the base abilities.  I sure have seen plenty of Octanes and Pathfinders play as a team, but Apex doesn't do a good job of that.  From designing maps that encourage you to ditch your team like Kings Canyon, to having solo run and gun characters versus those who absolutely need a team to work, get ready for the chaos.  It won't change until core mechanics and the way base abilities work change.  No stat nerf is going to do that.

The character concepts and ideas are fun, if you want to roll with that.  And by being fun, they are inherently imbalanced and some can lead to the kind of play Apex purportedly doesn't like (and yet has a lot of stuff in their game that goes against what they say they like)

@Koochi-Q if you look closely the guy you said the whole dramatic “cut pathfinders legs off “ thing to has +16 xp on his comment and you only have 5

@Koochi-Q @that no one agrees with you lol. People don’t won’t everything perfectly balanced and imagine if everyone’s favorite hero got treated how you randomly wanna treat path. Games that perfectly balance never end well

@Koochi-Q find me a balanced game that is still around , til then we shouldn’t nerf things that no one called for to be nerfed until after the nerf went through 

His grapple singlehandedly lets him do the following, unmatched
-Chase down any opponent
-Flee any opponent
-Escape any sort of trap or bad situation
-Maneuver for flanks

That isn't entirely true, path cant outpace another path nor a bloodhound or octane and wraith for that matter. How often do you chase a pathy round the map anyway that's suicide in high tier ranked games. You should welcome a pathy that grapples away from his team when you crack his shield to turn it into a 3v2 fight anyway.

Pathy felt so overpowered only playing vs bad players, it just made it so much easier to outplay players that aren't aware of what's going down.

So positives for pathy were

High mobility with grapple

Zipline for team to gain high ground advantage

The ability to play well solo when your team is dead.

Negatives now are

High mobilty is now a gimmick 

Takes increased damage 

as of the latest season couldn't escape a team unless they were super bad.

There's literally only one place a pathy was overpowered and uncontested in every single way and that was skulltown, simply because he could grapple a building and only another pathy would keep up.

Ive said this before but il mention it again each and every class has weakness and strengths, in paths case last season he could take high ground fast get a knock and get back out if he needed to. 

But its very easy to shut down a pathy from doing this you anticipate him taking the high ground or you back up to a new position. If you take high ground first he is an easy target coming up, if hes hyper aggressive player and chases you and your team down if you decide to reposition it becomes a 3v1 fight. Both scenarios the pathy gets wrecked. Pathy was only so good at what he does when catching other players making a mistake.

When ive played vs a good team with a gibby, ive flanked them got someone one shot and down comes gibbys shield, I have two choices push in and die because my team is still a little farther away or we just reset the fight when the shield expires. How is pathy overpowered there. You just have to use the right tools to punish a pathy. In gibbys case he dropped his shield and stopped me in my tracks. Every class can out manuovre each other. This game is more about movement and positioning than gun game.  

@a24zxc5411011abxwow is still ahead of apex on twitch