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F0XYB0IARBLE's avatar
F0XYB0IARBLE
3 years ago

Horrible matchmaking, script/macro usage and hackers. How do you enjoy S16?

Apex became insane to play. It's just getting worse and worse As the game stays out for longer, the skill gap will increase, yes, but this game is not suffering from that, At least not while that is...
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reconzero's avatar
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago

@F0XYB0IARBLE

I don't see the degree of cheating that you're describing, but I also don't play on pc. If you're on pc then I have to say I'm not surprised at all. pc gaming is a complete and utter ****hole. I don't know why anyone would put up with any of that when, expecially these days, it offers so little beyond what a good console can do. Although I have to say I'm open to correction on that point if there's been some epic breakthrough in pc gaming recently. There certainly have been epic cheating breakthroughs.

The matchmaking is pretty tragic in this game. And yes, there are fixes on the way, but I should have put the word fixes in quotes. They won't end up fixing much of anything at all. Games are built for the benefit of the 5% at the top of the food chain and the rest of us are just here to pay the bills. It's been that way since the advent of online multiplayer gaming, and it will always be that way. No one will ever build a low-skill ceiling game or low-barrier-to-entry game, and even if they did then cheaters and smurfs would still infiltrate and overrun it completely just as they have here.

Speech over.

Unitee01's avatar
Unitee01
3 years ago
@reconzero Agreed, mostly. Any activity will have winners and losers. Time+natural ability = better. That's how life works. You either get better than the majority or you call it a day. That is why variance in lobbies is important, so while you may not win, you at least can lose with some dignity.

As for pc gaming, I've never been happier vs my console days. I actually think there are more console cheaters vs pc but I could be wrong. I'm posting better damage numbers, better kd, no more one clipped from stupid distances with a roller outside of aa range etc... Not to mention better performance. Sure, new consoles has the performance boost too but so what? It's a different experience entirely, a more expensive one, but a better one imo.

Just a side note - I though I would hate it too, until I tried it. Never going back. And also, it's hard to understand that people can have "such good aim without aimbot" until you learn it yourself, not to say it isn't a thing, but you'd be surprised...
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Unitee01

    Not to be THAT GUY, but until I can do it on a mac then there is no interest in pc gaming on my part. I'll return to windows when hell freezes over.

    I'm curious to hear you say "more console cheaters vs pc." That is contrary to everything I have ever heard from anyone. Console guys may use strikes and anti-recoil, but as far as I know there is no way to use actual aimbots or wall hacks on console, things which seem to be so readily available for pc.

    "it's hard to understand that people can have "such good aim without aimbot" until you learn it yourself"

    Well, 23 years of dogwater aim WITH aim assist tells me that mnk would definitely not be a thing for me. Also I have to say that there is at least something intuitive about a controller. MNK seems to me like the complete opposite. If I wanted to spent another 15 years in piano lessons I'd just go back to the piano. At least something worthwhile comes out of that!
    • Unitee01's avatar
      Unitee01
      3 years ago
      @reconzero LOL fair enough 🙂

      I've never used Mac, why don't you like Windows? I mean, it's fine..I don't have issues with it.

      Well yeah, that's what I meant - chronus/xim/strike packs or whatever the kids use these days are undetectable. And these companies exist and sell their products...someone is buying it and using it, but since it's console it seems like a lot of people are still in disbelief that it's actually being used by players. As far as Apex goes I have yet to see even one of my deaths raise an eyebrow. Sure, people beam you but you beam back...not seeing any sus behaviour aside from a few smurfs here and there which is not technically cheating. Sure it happens somewhere, just haven't encountered it yet, console was the opposite for me.
      • reconzero's avatar
        reconzero
        Seasoned Ace
        3 years ago
        @Unitee01

        "why don't you like Windows?"

        Do NOT get me started.

        "Sure, people beam you but you beam back..."

        Were it so easy.

        "not seeing any sus behaviour aside from a few smurfs here and there which is not technically cheating."

        I wasn't even thinking about smurfs, but in my humble opinion it's cheating and it isn't even a lesser form of cheating. What makes it even more aggrevating is that the developer could detect and shut down in a matter of a few matches, but that would interfere with several other dev objectives and so it's not only allowed, it's encouraged and it flourishes.

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