"How did he down me so fast?... Literally in a second"

You tell me that after you unload your R99 in someone's back landing all your shots, and they turn around and kill you in one burst even though you had purple armor. I'm so happy when I get that lucky chance that the team is dead and spectating. Umm what just happened. Yea, I know. Happens once or twice a day.  I've also had it happen the other way around. Downing people with the devotion from far away, taking them down 3 times faster than they normally go down.  Will have some games when you first drop that damage registers correctly, some games where I down them faster than normal, and other times that they just won't go down. I had a game where we landed and I had over 600 damage in the first fight without downing anyone. With the servers as bad as they are and as many people playing the game, it is going to happen. At least they seem to have fixed the lag you get sometimes when first dropping in.

Yeah, I was standing close behind my squadmate in a firefight yesterday. He got shot at by a Havoc and it looked like he went down before the first shot even reached him. The lag between what the game shows you and what the server says happened is sometimes ridiculous.

From my understanding a whole clip from an un-upgraded r-99 can kill anything with 200hp, so no, you didn't land all your shots. Also Im not accounting for lag or possible cheaters, im level 240+ and I never really seen what you've explained happened. Im on console btw, if you're from pc then maybe it was a hacker, but most of the time people just have really good aim. This game surely isn't most first fps, and if their decent they're gunna melt you.

Im not accounting for lag and possible cheaters by the way, and also I guess I should mention this game looks like a "favor the shooter" type, so that might explain getting shot after the last millisecond of getting in cover

It's not just dps when someone pre-fires uphill while you're strafing and insta-kills you and your team, clearly landing every headshot.

As I've said before, I am looking forward to these aimbotters playing after the servers are secured. I've seen their aim without toggle and it's laughable.

Im not talking about potential hackers lol. Im talking about when people plain out get out gunned and they try to make excuses. Some people are just better, some people average 1500k damage per match, you're bound to run into them, you're bound to get melted, it happens. That's what im saying. Not hackers. Regular people who just play a lot can melt too. You're talking about a different thing my dude.

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@ThiccThighsxxx wrote:

Im not talking about potential hackers lol. Im talking about when people plain out get out gunned and they try to make excuses. Some people are just better, some people average 1500k damage per match, you're bound to run into them, you're bound to get melted, it happens. That's what im saying. Not hackers. Regular people who just play a lot can melt too. You're talking about a different thing my dude.

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But you're not an expert and you claim to not be a firsthand witness either. So what's the point of what you're saying?

Guns kill fast, that's pretty much it. You don't need to be an expert to go into training room to see how fast they do damage dude

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@ThiccThighsxxx wrote:

Guns kill fast, that's pretty much it. You don't need to be an expert to go into training room to see how fast they do damage dude

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But if @newname4504 says he was killed by a cheat and you weren't there, then how do you know it wasn't a cheat?

You're not even a 3rd party witness. You didn't shoot him, and you didn't see it happen, so how do you know?

Even if you think you were in a similar situation it doesn't mean that what he is saying didn't happen as you weren't there.

Imagine a trial where the witnesses weren't even at the scene when the crime happened. That would be absurd.

You can be a witness or an expert witness who can give either an eye witness account or expertise in the field of a particular piece of evidence. Or your the victim or the defendant.

You can't just have anybody off the street turning up and saying "that didn't happen" or "he's pretty ugly he musta dun it!".