I'm not even gonna mad at them anymore, it's just unfair to them to keep up with above-average players or better, these guys probably have 0.1-0.5 KDR and forced to play with players like me with 1.5 KDR, I'm not even that good tbh, and they keep dying over and over once there is a fight. Let alone when they meet preds.Not to mention they are so slow at looting and got left behind, in the end, they just died alone.Of course, it's fun to kill newbies, but I also hate to play with masters & predators, So let them play with players that have similar skills, or when they pre-made with veterans. Don't put solo newbies into veterans' lobbies. Also don't force us to carry them because it's just not gonna work. Let them sharpen their skills themselves, if they getting carried all the time, they're not gonna enjoy the game that much and they'll quit eventually.'Cause they will always feel bad at the game no matter what.

@bosourd agreed, had a level 27 blood the day before last, he went down 9 times ithroughout the match, two of these resulted in full death for him.You could see he was really trying to work with us though, so we tried giving him some encouragement lol.We were all noobs once, some people forget that. :3

@bosourd Some of them are really not that bad. I've been matched with some fairly goated noobs. I think some of the time they just need a bit of guidance and someone to build their confidence up in game. I had a level 40 who was doing fairly good with me. I was leading the fights and he was keeping up, keeping enemies off of me when I'd heal. He was being overly critical of himself. But he was definitely finishing up/clutching fights for our squad. He ended up nearly matching me with damage and kills, and was about 750 damage above our third who was a level 500.He definitely needed to work on using abilities but his legend movement, rotation and what not was all decent. I played some more rounds with him and there were times he was a potato, but I had rounds in which I was. I really tried to build his confidence and the more he had the better he got at the game.

@MandatoryIDtagI think the point OP is making is not about being a noob, but about how matchmaking is tainting everyone's experience by deliberately making teams with too wide of a gap in skills.Sure, everyone had to start somewhere.... but placing a level 10 along with a pred as a way of balancing the match is not really balancing it imo.Yeah, the skill level of the squad will be lowered, but not all players know how to carry a team.... some are very good as support players, and once you force them to either make the kill or die... they die.... and get frustrated....

im a day one player and still love the game but its wears me down a lot of the time. ive a lifetime kd of 2 and my lobbies are nothing but hell every match i play either ranked or pubs. Pubs ive to handhold against 3 stack preds and masters, my randoms are on average below 100 they don't stand a chance, im going to be honest in pubs its gotten so bad for my own experience if i go down i just instaquit cause i can't remember the last time anyone saved me in a match so its bye bye on to the next one, rinse and repeat.The thing that really annoys me is the blatant lies from respawn about matchmaking, supposedly there is a such a low amount of masters and preds yet no matter what time of day or wherever i server select in the world it still manages to find me masters and pred stacks filling my lobby. i must be in a bracket that is the worst for enjoyment in this game. if the matchmaking was fair i would probably have played this game till it died but at this juncture im just waiting for battlefield 6 and hope to god that turns out a good game.

@reconzero Just based from dive trails and banners of the kill leader and champion squad, and player who killed you. I believe back then on PC you can have a list of players who are playing in your lobby and some can even overlay it on their screen or on their second monitor. Not sure if it’s still a thing though.

I genuinely feel bad for newbies/low-skilled players with these matchmaking

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DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
4 years ago
@bosourd Some of them are really not that bad. I've been matched with some fairly goated noobs. I think some of the time they just need a bit of guidance and someone to build their confidence up in game. I had a level 40 who was doing fairly good with me. I was leading the fights and he was keeping up, keeping enemies off of me when I'd heal. He was being overly critical of himself. But he was definitely finishing up/clutching fights for our squad. He ended up nearly matching me with damage and kills, and was about 750 damage above our third who was a level 500.

He definitely needed to work on using abilities but his legend movement, rotation and what not was all decent. I played some more rounds with him and there were times he was a potato, but I had rounds in which I was. I really tried to build his confidence and the more he had the better he got at the game.
MandatoryIDtag
4 years ago
@bosourd agreed, had a level 27 blood the day before last, he went down 9 times ithroughout the match, two of these resulted in full death for him.
You could see he was really trying to work with us though, so we tried giving him some encouragement lol.
We were all noobs once, some people forget that. :3
bosourd
4 years ago
@DarthValtrex had few cooperative newbies lately, but still, I can't really guide them when in a fight, they kinda have to figure it out on their own, which kinda makes me feel bad lol
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
4 years ago
@bosourd I get it, I've noticed it too. Down 2 people from a squad and heavily damage the third. Teammate is lets them revive because me and the other teammate are down.. yet they are at full health. i'm sitting there wondering what they are thinking
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@bosourd

Currently the experience is a lose lose IMO. Frustration reigns on both sides. Low skilled players are in way more than they can handle, keep dying, learning little or nothing because the jump is too steep.
More skilled players get the situation you describe; they are forced to carry, which often ends in frustration.

Since this situation is deliberately created, it makes me think that the game is mostly a casual game, intended to be played in small bites or just 3/4 hours a week at best.
Just my opinion
It usually goes somewhere like this
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@DarthValtrex
Perhaps some of those "goated noobs" are actually smurfing? I mean a good plat player that has no team to play with and climb up is probably the perfect candidate to make a smurf account and start over....just my 2cs.
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag

I think the point OP is making is not about being a noob, but about how matchmaking is tainting everyone's experience by deliberately making teams with too wide of a gap in skills.
Sure, everyone had to start somewhere.... but placing a level 10 along with a pred as a way of balancing the match is not really balancing it imo.
Yeah, the skill level of the squad will be lowered, but not all players know how to carry a team.... some are very good as support players, and once you force them to either make the kill or die... they die.... and get frustrated....
guvstar
4 years ago
im a day one player and still love the game but its wears me down a lot of the time. ive a lifetime kd of 2 and my lobbies are nothing but hell every match i play either ranked or pubs. Pubs ive to handhold against 3 stack preds and masters, my randoms are on average below 100 they don't stand a chance, im going to be honest in pubs its gotten so bad for my own experience if i go down i just instaquit cause i can't remember the last time anyone saved me in a match so its bye bye on to the next one, rinse and repeat.
The thing that really annoys me is the blatant lies from respawn about matchmaking, supposedly there is a such a low amount of masters and preds yet no matter what time of day or wherever i server select in the world it still manages to find me masters and pred stacks filling my lobby. i must be in a bracket that is the worst for enjoyment in this game. if the matchmaking was fair i would probably have played this game till it died but at this juncture im just waiting for battlefield 6 and hope to god that turns out a good game.
MandatoryIDtag
4 years ago
@Vdstrk I understood the OP perfectly, which is why I started my reply with "agreed" ^.^
This is an age old complaint, and honestly it won't change....you spin a roulette wheel everytime you solo queue and thats the top and bottom of it.
Newbie protection is pointless as it just creates a feeding ground for smurfs. There's literally no winning formula here and it sucks lol.
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag

I agree that it is an age old complaint, and that most if not all what if scenarios for it have been explored by the community.
I am surprised that 2 years in it has not been addressed....
100% agree this issue keeps coming up!