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13lack-0ut's avatar
4 years ago

If im being honest

I truly believe a ban wave on soft and hard cheaters would take out such a large part of the population of players it frightens EA / Respawn to pull the trigger. Not a game goes by in Ranked that 10% minimum (6 players per lobby) and its probably higher some reddit calculations have it as high as 25% but atleast 10% are using some form of cheat. The ADS AimBot/Target lock is getting out of hand for sure. People using a modified aim assist and no recoil scripts are agregious and everywhere.. The Silent mod or w/e it is thats causing everything to be silent besides gun fire and even its buggy sounding is everywhere as well.

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  • @13lack-0ut last season I heard/experienced the situation in Diamond+ lobbies and especially during the last week of the season.

    Now I am in Platinum and it feels closer to Diamond+, also I am in couple of Discord servers including https://discord.gg/Ghdz2eGH and reports of Platinum players keep coming in almost as often as Diamond+

    Sad but true - when coming to a game I was warned that this is a hackers paradise and so far it seems that indeed you are more likely to get a ban for reporting hacker (disclosing his/her name) rather than him/her getting banned for obvious wallhack or aimbot usage and most importantly people start to understand that and keep pushing the limits to see at what point they actually get banned, because from what we see there is not enough security in place - I saw a report of a player who went from Bronze 4 to 10000+RP Predator in 1.5!!!! days, and there were no triggers, suspension from EA side for more than a week.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    4 years ago
    @EREGDS Itztimmy did the bronze 4 to pred in about 36 hours last season. One thing people need to remember is just because you cannot control recoil without a stabilizer doesn't mean others cannot. The grinders literally spend hours upon hours practicing jitter aim and the recoil pattern.
  • @13lack-0ut@EREGDSI totally agree with you guys. The cheating in this game is on another level. There are so many cheaters, it's unbelievable.

    I have around 4k hours in this game and spotting cheaters is really easy for me. So many people are using wall hacks, especially in arenas. No recoil scripts and soft aimbots are the norm for apex legends.
    There are so many cheaters in ranked br at every start of the split/season, it is almost impossible to grind to master in the first 2-3 weeks because of the crazy amount of cheaters. I got master 2 times so far but always at the end of the split/ season, cuz grinding at the start it's just not possible.

    So many people are abusing the aim assist with strike packs and the no recoil mods they provide. Console cheaters are queueing with 1 pc player because they want to aimbot in pc lobbies with their strike packs and the extra aim assist or maybe they are boosting the pc player, who knows.

    Also I can say as a double master player with 20bomb/4k, that in some situations the recoil of guns is beyond me. I just can't hit stuff very accurately with flatline at range or with devo/havoc/99 etc. So don't trust the people saying that you can master the recoil by just playing the game. To be able to control the recoil on guns you have to spend weeks in the firing range, practicing recoil patterns and even then you won't be able to counter the recoil perfectly, because humans are not robots.

  • @hayhor I am not following streamers but I would assume that this dude had a lot of hours under his belt and did this famous challenge just to earn 100+k USD over 36h.

    Can this be done by a random dude who hadn't played in years? Doubt so.

    And let's not start that fanboy stuff about controlling recoil, jittering etc. When I came to Apex someone suggested me to look up a dude called Dazs - he is all about aim perfection. Cool, he is like the top of the world in aiming and tracking. Gets into the game and has similar success in public games as any of us who has been P4+. I asked myself a question - is it worth it?!

    I mean sure it helps but it is not game breaking or comparable with people who delegate recoil and aim control to software 🙂
  • @Tad844 I can't prove it of course nor I cba to invest time in something that is obvious to me but I also think there are quite a few tale-tale signs when someone is hacking:
    - bullets are flying straight even when people strafe (try it out in firing range say with r99 and then see someone "pro" lasering with r99, you will get what I mean)
    - people just hit every consecutive shot on your - even very good recoil control + enemy strafing would lead to 1 or 2 bullets being missed, but in hack cases, you just feel it in-game and see it in death recap that they just went 10, 12 straight or more and deleted you from full health to 0 in one go
    - with softbot and aimbot you can even see bullets curve into hitbox, yesterday even saw one case (reported) where a dude was already moving a crosshair to the left but bullets kept flying more to the right
    - with these pro jitters and memory geniuses who know each bullet's recoil pattern crosshair just stays dead-on, if I would know how to measure it I am sure it would be pixel perfect (corrected for player's movement).

    @hayhor and probably many more are pointing out that people like me are bashing potentially legit players - fair enough, but that's not the biggest issue of this game as there are people who don't even analyze the potential hacking cases but just go straight from "oh you killed me in one go, ok I will hack now then" which is this community's (and a few more before this game) bigger problems.

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