I don't know about the end of Respawn, but it could very well kill APEX.
I cannot speak for PC, but on console where the cheating is not happening, I'd say Apex and Respawn will continue. Weather Apex dies on PC is another issue, but as I do my rounds, I watch streamers complaining of cheaters and bad servers in PubG and H1Z1, awful gameplay in Fortnite to name a few. Nobody is playing BFV on PC. Apex is not on it's own in terms of issues on PC but you wouldn't think that reading this forum.
It's Respawns stubbornness that made MW2 the huge hit it was back in the day. I was there playing in it's heyday. I have faith in them above all others if I'm honest. EA not so much, but Respawn? Yes I have faith in them.
Also, after reading the many cheater issues on PC for many titles, there is no way in the world anybody could convince me to start online gaming on PC. No way.
I think that platform is seen as a cheat platform. "If you want to cheat, play PC" kinda mentality.
I'll stick to being a console peasant and immediately solve the biggest issue Apex (and many other titles) seem to have.
Been there done that and I would rather sacrifice my mouse and keyboard over cheaters any day of the week.
@Silz616 wrote:Also, after reading the many cheater issues on PC for many titles, there is no way in the world anybody could convince me to start online gaming on PC. No way.
I think that platform is seen as a cheat platform. "If you want to cheat, play PC" kinda mentality.
I'll stick to being a console peasant and immediately solve the biggest issue Apex (and many other titles) seem to have.
Maybe because I'm an old guy I like to play with mouse and keyboard, not used to gamepads.
But you are right, PC platform is a "cheat platform" and thats because isn't controlled by a single entity as is the consoles (Sony/PS4, Microsoft/XBox, ...). Also Windows system has some flaws (memory and security) that allows the injection of code into programs.
Keep playing online in consoles because PC gaming is dying, thanks to cheaters.
@AzGoshawk wrote:
@Silz616 wrote:Also, after reading the many cheater issues on PC for many titles, there is no way in the world anybody could convince me to start online gaming on PC. No way.
I think that platform is seen as a cheat platform. "If you want to cheat, play PC" kinda mentality.
I'll stick to being a console peasant and immediately solve the biggest issue Apex (and many other titles) seem to have.
Maybe because I'm an old guy I like to play with mouse and keyboard, not used to gamepads.
But you are right, PC platform is a "cheat platform" and thats because isn't controlled by a single entity as is the consoles (Sony/PS4, Microsoft/XBox, ...). Also Windows system has some flaws (memory and security) that allows the injection of code into programs.
Keep playing online in consoles because PC gaming is dying, thanks to cheaters.
You are right. It's the editable platform that causes the issues. Well, it's the players abusing the platform really but.... Yeah.
If PC's could be locked down, and what you buy is what you get, you almost eliminate the cheat side of things. It also makes it easier to detect changes to the bought hardware and how it "should be" used.
I get that people want better anti cheat, but the platform will always have work arounds as you are dealing open source editable and exploitable platform. For some people to lay this solely on Respawn is not fair imo, and I certainly do not think this is "the end" for them at all.
I hope they can resolve the issues for you and others so you can enjoy this game as intended. I'll keep my fingers crossed bud.
@Silz616 wrote:
@AzGoshawk wrote:
@Silz616 wrote:Also, after reading the many cheater issues on PC for many titles, there is no way in the world anybody could convince me to start online gaming on PC. No way.
I think that platform is seen as a cheat platform. "If you want to cheat, play PC" kinda mentality.
I'll stick to being a console peasant and immediately solve the biggest issue Apex (and many other titles) seem to have.
Maybe because I'm an old guy I like to play with mouse and keyboard, not used to gamepads.
But you are right, PC platform is a "cheat platform" and thats because isn't controlled by a single entity as is the consoles (Sony/PS4, Microsoft/XBox, ...). Also Windows system has some flaws (memory and security) that allows the injection of code into programs.
Keep playing online in consoles because PC gaming is dying, thanks to cheaters.
You are right. It's the editable platform that causes the issues. Well, it's the players abusing the platform really but.... Yeah.
If PC's could be locked down, and what you buy is what you get, you almost eliminate the cheat side of things. It also makes it easier to detect changes to the bought hardware and how it "should be" used.
I get that people want better anti cheat, but the platform will always have work arounds as you are dealing open source editable and exploitable platform. For some people to lay this solely on Respawn is not fair imo, and I certainly do not think this is "the end" for them at all.
I hope they can resolve the issues for you and others so you can enjoy this game as intended. I'll keep my fingers crossed bud.
Windows is not a open source platform. It will never be. But I understand what you meant by "editable".
Quote: For some people to lay this solely on Respawn is not fair imo, and I certainly do not think this is "the end" for them at all.
I'm working in IT industry in 10 years and I honestly disagree with you.
If you make a software and sell it to people. You must have responsibility for it.
Your bank develops new App. You download and use it to access your bank account. Somehow someone hack the app, and steal money from ur bank account. Will you say " It's not fair to blame the Bank because I run it on an editable platform?"
PC is a cheating platform, yes, it's also the platform where most elites are. Take a wild look on Twitch, the majority of good players are on this cheating platform.
There must be a reason why Shroud , Dizzy, Diegosaurs, Ninja, Doc prefer PC over console for shooter games. Because they want to compete with fellow good players, not someone lying on their sofa, playing Apex on 60 inch TV with the loudspeaker.
