It's time to complain about Octane

I wasn't gonna complain until I actually played him, but these changes make no sense. Octane first came out, he had 1hp regen per second and Stim cost 10 health and it wasn't good. They literally buffed his regen to make it better and now they brought it back to being just as penalizing accept it's even worse in combat. You can't even use it for long distance travel unless you're gonna stop to heal before getting into a fight, which is just counter intuitive. What's the point of using something to go fast if you have to slow way down afterwards? Before now I really liked that with Octane I didn't have to carry any more than 4 syringes and I could save space in my inventory. What's the point of the self heal if the self damage outweighs it? 2 health per second is not going to give you an advantage in combat, and I doubt you'd want to wait 20 seconds for it to regen 2 Stims. Stim really isn't that crazy of an ability, it just increases your speed. If you want Octanes to not use it as often, just give it a slightly longer cooldown. Or they could make it so that you can start health regen before the end of the stim so you don't have to wait the full 10 seconds afterwards to get to full health.

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16 Replies

hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@SheepsKing They did it to stop the spamming. Much like paths grapple nerf you should be able to just do it into someone and then be able to quickly do it to get away. Regarding the comment on traveling long distances and then having to wait to engage. That is kind of the point. You shouldn't be able to 3rd teams super fast just because you are octane.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
4 years ago
@SheepsKing The intent was to stop Octane mains from spamming it all over the place and leaving their teammates in The dust. If he needs more adjustments I’m sure they’ll make them. They always pay attention the impacts changes have.

If the health costs are negatively impacting him to much they will likely make other changes to balance it out.
SheepsKing
Rising Vanguard
4 years ago
Like I said, if you don't want spam they couldve just raised the cooldown of Stim. Jump pad has been a much better means of escape. Also, when I say before getting in a fight, I'm talking about when your team is already in combat. Now I will more often have to heal before I can help my team. That sucks. If I want to third party as Octane, I would spam stim to get to the other team and then snipe them while I self heal. Nothing about the nerfs makes that less viable. Also, a lot of champs can third party efficiently through jump pads, portals, ziplines, and Valkyrie is probably super good since she can not only fly in her whole team, but also target the team getting third partied. Octane's whole character is speed, so yeah you really should be able to 3rd party super fast. I know it's no fun, but it's not an Octane problem
DeaconZee
4 years ago
I hate having an Octane on my team... they usually run far ahead and end up running stupidly into a 1 v 3, then leave.

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SheepsKing
Rising Vanguard
4 years ago
@DeaconZee that's prejudice
Daze623
4 years ago
@SheepsKing I haven't had that much issue with it but then again I never really was the kind of player to spam stim and would always be smart when I use it. The only times I use it is when I need to reposition quickly or need to catch up to my teammate when they get into a fight and usually I would only need 1 stim to catch up.
XLnarrator
4 years ago
"They always pay attention to the impacts changes have.,".

-Nothing is perfect
-No they don't
-If that's true Wattson and Caustic (stationary)
Wouldn't be pushed with ease
Cro_Pittt
4 years ago
@SheepsKing If you're close enough to your team one stim is enough to reach them. If not then it's your fault for not being with them but wandering around by yourself. And by the time you join the fight enemies also got some damage so it's not like they're all full health and you're the only one with less hp. I'm really not seeing the issue here.
Daze623
4 years ago
@Cro_Pittt yup just because you have a movement boosting ability doesn't mean you should stray away from your team.
Tad844
4 years ago
@SheepsKingThat whole idea about an ability costing health is just bad design. That works in games where there is some form of lifesteal.

How I would have done this ability is give it a 15-20 second cooldown once the stim runs out and give the stim more speed, maybe 50% and no health cost.

Octane should be the fastest character in the game, instead he is just as fast as bangalore, wraith and actually slower then bloodhound and his ability costs health to use.