everytime i play with those high level (gamers) who has more than 600 - 2000 kills are kinda amature kids or what? .
they dont do much team work , always go solo and kill as much as many , no revive , jump start and rush to enemies soo fast. and THEY ALL act same like this.
there should be separate lobby or game rooms for such people who think they are very pro. this game really needs lots of tweeks.n mods.
@Jungle-Beard wrote:
@realy-bad-1 wrote:everytime i play with those high level (gamers) who has more than 600 - 2000 kills are kinda amature kids or what? .
they dont do much team work , always go solo and kill as much as many , no revive , jump start and rush to enemies soo fast. and THEY ALL act same like this.
there should be separate lobby or game rooms for such people who think they are very pro. this game really needs lots of tweeks.n mods.
The only thing they care about is self inflated stats so they can brag to their Mom. EA rewards them for "just trying" rather then teamwork and trying to actually win.
On the PS4 there are several people who are lvl 80+, 1000+ Kills, 0 Wins... They need to reduce experience for damage and kills by a ton, and increase the reward for winning.
I disagree. Most of these guys are so dam dumb they don't even know there are stats in the game.
And the ones that do brag about the wrong stats. Like headshots. Guy tells me headshots are most important cause it means you have good aim. And i'm like I think damage done and matches won are more important dude lol. What about strategy and tactics, positional awareness. Its not just all about aim especially with the movement in this game.
We live in planet of the apes man. Its getting scary.
@Pretzelnutcake wrote:
Problem is the bigger their stat numbers compared to their teammates, the more likely they're to assume the rest of us would just slow them down and they decide to solo jump or leave their team after finding some gear and that has never ended well for them in any of the matches I've played. The majority of the time the lv2 player survives longer and coordinates better than the person with 500+ kills and a legendary skin. The game needs to show how many downs and respawns and stuff they have as well so their ego won't get so swollen.
I agree the more stats the better. And your right its goes by toon. so people will see low stats and assume you suck not realizing you never play that character.
@zennorian wrote:I don't agree, if someone cant keep up me and my team mate slow down. Not every 60+ player is as selfish as you say, it completely depends on the person and play style. BUT I have been in with lvl 100's and they have done off to do there own thing and majority of the time they die within the first 3 minutes, and me and my teammate shake our head and get on with the game, then other games where they have stuck with us the whole way.
People's play style may not be in conjuncture with yours, but Apex is a team game, stick together and kill hard.
well said. The guy who says his teamates need to keep up with him or too bad, sounds like one the donkeys I hate teaming with. Its a team game. Playing as a team wins matches.
Maybe a solo mode would indeed keep the monkeys separated from the rest of us.
@Biochemikas wrote:Some ppl watch too much Shroud. Some even think he's good (hint: he's entertaining, but he's not good; every time I watched him he died alone (although the last time I did watch him was in Blackout, but I doubt anything changed) - would think it was the goal, but from his comments you can understand he didn't even know his teammates were not following (zero map awareness)). A lot of ppl are like him - they think that good aim is enough to win the game and even Moba/RTS veterans often have trouble keeping an eye on the map...
Although often fighting and dying alone IS a conscious choice - that will keep happening until they implement a solo mode + a way to play solo squads (I do that often too, knowing perfectly well where my teammates are and what they are doing).
Most of the pros I watch are like this. I think they feel they are godlike and their teamates are beneath them, and are of no help anyways. I'm not sure. But I would love to see streams of the tournaments in this game. Because I guarantee the pros with the best teamwork are the ones who are going to win more often.
Going yolo towards the enemy is not gonna win many matches.
@Grrizz wrote:Id say it has less to do with the level and more to do with the kills per level, high kill per level usually indicates a soloer/DMer, someone who hot drops kills a couple of people if they get better RNG than the others that hot dropped then disconnects as soon as they are downed to get back into the next RNG match because they are low skill.
People who do that and have high level are probably kids though because you get more XP for lasting than killing so they probably don't do much other than play Apex (i.e. no job etc.).
These people are basically the sole reason I want them to add a solo lobby, I don't think this game would be as much fun solo but would love to get rid of the soloers from my matches...
Its not just kids though. Watch some twitch streams of the top players. Thats what this game has become all about. Although I really believe in a professional tourney this will not fly if people want to win consistently.
Hot dropping for a lucky start or quickly leaving to do it all over again, might be fun for some, and might be good aim practice. But you can't have consistent wins relying on mostly luck.
And I agree, I haven't realized till this thread that solo mode will probably get these noobs and selfish players out of team matches. Which would be a good thing.
@Jimmahwd wrote:Ha my son and I are just over level 60.
We play to win and kill.
Can't keep up, leave.
We win more games just the two of us anyway.
You know I could say the same thing about people under level 60.
I don't
Want to know why, because I'm an adult and realise not everyone plays the same as I/we do.
So therefore if I'm matched with a lower level player, we slow down, ping loot. give away loot.
Turn on our mic's offer advise etc etc.
The last thing we do is make a forum post insulting lower level players.
Haha I totally agree with this.
The other thing is some people might just enjoy
getting into fights and are not as concerned with winning
as others are.
Winning is nice but it's not all there is.
@Biochemikas wrote:Some ppl watch too much Shroud. Some even think he's good (hint: he's entertaining, but he's not good; every time I watched him he died alone (although the last time I did watch him was in Blackout, but I doubt anything changed) - would think it was the goal, but from his comments you can understand he didn't even know his teammates were not following (zero map awareness)). A lot of ppl are like him - they think that good aim is enough to win the game and even Moba/RTS veterans often have trouble keeping an eye on the map...
Although often fighting and dying alone IS a conscious choice - that will keep happening until they implement a solo mode + a way to play solo squads (I do that often too, knowing perfectly well where my teammates are and what they are doing).
Yeah but what motivation does someone like Shroud have to play this game 'seriously'? Absolutely nothing is on the line, there is no pro scene, there is no esports, there isn't even a ranked ELO system yet. People don't wanna watch slow paced looting and 'tactical' gameplay on a stream, they just want frags and action and funny commentary, that's why the most popular gamer/streamer in the world, Pewdiepie, isn't even that good at gaming, he is average at best, yet is the richest and most popular gamer on Earth.
At the end of the day it doesn't really matter. Streamers just want more viewers and you don't even need to be remotely skilled to achieve that. But to say Shroud isn't good is laughable, are you aware of the dude's esports track record? He's proven himself many times over in R6 and CS.
@QuickyTime Which always makes me ask the question "why not just play a DM game?"... but then I realise because proper DM requires skill and hot droppers are just using early game RNG as a crutch...
Hi!
There are many ways to counter a first fight, and battles later in the game. Some people have the believe that you should be agressive and push, cause thats the way they come to learn about themselfs to bee most effective. This is the kind of playstyle that you kind of need to have if you ever want to be able to be that consistant hopdrop-zone survivor.
This style is ofcourse more effective if you have a trio with the same mindset.
Also remember the more fights you take, win or loose them, you allways will be growing in to a high skill player faster, and can then start to develope the fine line whenever decide to be defensive/agressive/baiting etc, cause in the end its all about what situation you are in.
There are many different gamers within this style, there are upcoming talents, grinders,pros, and even legends. Since this game is fresh from a couple of weeks back, there are many players grinding their skill to get good.
The question you should ask yourself after the first minutes in a game should be wheter if you should adapt to them, or make them adapt to you wich is a lot harder to do. What happens if you push with theese guys, try to talk to them, maybe drop some items and show that you want to learn, or even if the player doesnt respond to this, can you broaden your own game just watching what other players do/dont do?
In all honesty, since there are only trio availeble at the time, everyone should be able play the way that they think its fun. be open minded, every human is different. Go out there and have fun!! If you cant connect with the other guys in your them make the best of it to learn and HAVE FUN!!! This is all up to you and no one else.
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