6 years ago
Low profile nerf is too much
Low profile legends now take way too much damage making them frustrating to play, I don't even know how to respond to this RIDONKULUS change. Buff weak legends (octane, mirage, crypto) instead of ba...
People who support the nerfs to Wraith and Path, I have a question:
Are you happy with the current state of those characters or do you think they should continue to nerf them?
I ask this because I want to gain insight into where people draw the line. How much is too much? Do you guys want them to take even more damage?
And i have a question for you, how much happy you was, that you were winning a gun fight, you shouldn`t just because you were abusing a broken characters hitbox ?
The 2 only characters that can kill you with melee on landing when you pick a PK is Wraith and Pathfinder. And while Path hitbox(except for his non-existent head) is not a problem, his tactical is, and i expect he will get nerfed next. ;D But Wraith, oh man whatever nerf that broken characters get, its never going to be enough. Tho i think she is in a kinda good spot right now.
Her tactical is still OP, you just need a brain and actual skill to use it, not just brainlessly spam it, like it was before, same for her teleport, which is insanely OP. Her passive is always being one of the best ones.
And can you do the math ? 5% damage from 100 hp is just 5 hp. Its 10 hp out of 200 with full hp/armor. In exchange you are getting at least 50% of the bullets missing at you, just by picking her. So is the 5% more damage seems fair to u? Cause it does not to me.
And i still cant get people complaining about limb shots. Who in the blue hell are going to aim you at the limbs, explain me ? Its like zero to 1% difference.
Sorry but Naruto movement animation, insane small hitbox, best escape mechanism, insane ult and passive, but enough is enough.
Respawn are doing a great job trying to balance the legends. Buff is not always the right way, actually tuning down characters is the best way to keep the game in a good state, than actually make OP legends/abilities!
@Axs5626Sxa5001 Honestly I'm not even sure pathfinder should have a low profile debuff to start with, he's not much different than revenant in terms of size. Yes he is much more mobile than most legends but he isn't by any means hard to kill.
Wraith did deserve low profile undoubtedly, she basically becomes 2D when she crouches, again though i'm not sure a further enhancing the effects of low profile were really needed after both her tactical and ult took a hit.
I think its had a much bigger impact on lifeline and wattson though, i mean they at least tried to give a counter buff to lifeline with the blue bins....but since that extra compartment usually spits out syringes and white knockdown shields it's heavily underwhelming lol.
At the end of the day none of this matters, The reign of the gibby meta has begun. Respawn have pushed hard for this shift and that's not going to change any time soon.
You are talking nonsenses.
Pathfinder is twice as smaller compare to Gibby, as well as he have hitbox issue, that is like his head is nonexistent, which is a big +.
Should i even mention how much better he and Wraith are compare to the rest of the cast? Not to even mention he can even locate the zone, which is extremely useful if you play at high level.
Both Lifeline and Wattson are hard to hit as well. There is a plenty of videos where Pro players have a huge problem trying to hit the Lifeline even with PK at close distance, which speaks for itself. Wraith, Lifeline and Path are the smallest characters ING, while Wraith dominate in that department, the other 2 are also bad. Wattson animation is very weird and thats why she has the low-profile on her.
Lifeline is okay where she is it now, and still way better than a lot of the legends.
You can`t complain about nerfing Path and Wraith, cause they still are the best ING by far.
https://dreamteam.gg/apex/legends
This is from reddit, from u/arkan-agh
only Wraith , Wattson , Pathfinder , Gibby in every team . "Apex Legends Global Series Online Tournament"
Wraith, Pathfinder and Wattson can`t have anything to complain. Actually respawn is doing a good job tuning down certain characters. Actually this is not a nerf, so you totally throw off a character, they instead of that, are balancing this characters, that were abusively OP.
Wraith still have best Tactical, best passive and the best ultimate. You just actually needs skill to use it now. But at the right hand, they are still Number 1.
No other character have their hands on a tactical, that makes you a completely invulnerable to any damage, even zone damage and in the same time you can actually move and escape from tough situation. Only character as well that cannot be surprised by the enemies, because of her passive. And you can even use her tactical, during his ultimate.
So for god sake, spoiled kids, instead of actually crying for the best characters in the game, you should have actually look at the whole balancing picture at the game, and how much worst legends the game offer.
You can`t complain, where in the games are characters like Mirage and Octane.
Still top picks are:
Wraith
Path
Wattson
Lifeline
Gibby
Bangalore/Bloodhound
throw the rest in the mix with Octane/Mirage fighting for the last place.
@LordloshBang First of all why so aggressive? Calm down. Insulting people for having a difference in opinion only weakens the point you're trying to put across.
Secondly, i don't actually use any of these legends that often, my opinions are based off my own personal experience of playing the game.
I agree that balancing was needed with all of the above, the issue was with how it was done. Increasing low profile by making legs receive body damage just felt like a pretty lackluster approach.
The problem for me mainly is the discrepancies between the various legends hit boxes. Some of them are extremely well refined, which mainly consist of the legends you listed. However the rest are a total mess as a whole. Lots of the other legends take damage from shots that aint actually connecting with their body, with the exceptions of caustic and bangalore.
For me tightening up the rest of the legends hit boxes would have been a much better way of creating a more balanced roster than just flinging nerfs around.
As for the beginning of the gibby meta i mentioned, we'll see more buffs before any significant nerf to him, just watch. 😉