Matchmaking- & Team-fill issues
Hi Apex-community, the famous matchmaking problems in public mode have existed since the beginning of Apex Legends. Example: You (level 1000+) are put together in a squad with level 35 players, whi...
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Im not a community manager but if I get one awsome game my sky gets blood red with pred trails. Normally I only see diamond and master trails when I play my own average games.
So i you get good games, prepare to get face slammed by sbmm, and say hello to strange team comps, I keep getting only low levels into my groups and its clear they probably just had a lucky game, I don't really head it much attn outside what landing spot I choose.
I guess its part of the game, when you settle your style and start getting better you start getting slammed with this all the time, and at some point you get on the other side of that thing where you dont get people your level and skill into your team. I dont mind so much in pubs my beef with this is in ranked (hence why I only play premade in ranked).
Also after they added nofill option for duos and trios you can get odd games with one less person, specially at peek hours when a lot of people solo queue with nofill. And people quitting or crashing randomly, you only see them in the end on the summary screen. Ofcourse there are also the odd bug with fill ref @Cheese9Man
@Zkepz I've noticed when no filling I don't even need a special game. Just a couple top 5s with a few kills and some damage and wham lobby skill increase. I think this is why people who aren't really fighters struggle with the MM. You don't have to do anything in pubs to reach a top 5 so if you are a looter or a rotater the MM constantly moves you up.
- @hayhor I have an account with about 200 games played: no kills, no damage, no top 5.
As you would imagine, the lobbies on this account are the absolute lowest tier of SBMM in the entire game. Eventually I plan on testing what you just referenced. Will ratting and placing top 5 (without any kills or damage) increase the skill level of the lobby?Very cool project will be cool to get the results in the end :D
As @Zkepz I would also be interested in the results of your test. Cool idea.
@Axs5626Sxa5001That's interesting. Curious to see what you find. Keep in mind my account isn't a noob one or top level. Average. I've been no filling for about a three quarters of a season now in pubs when friends arent on and its something I noticed. I get knocks and do some damage but getting to finish a kill is tough sometimes.
- @hayhor This garbage right here is why this game is going to die. Player count is already low. Just let people have fun. I'd rather be stomped by preds once every 5 games and have 4 fun games than have an uphill battle every single match until the stupid system takes pitty on me all for the rubber banding cycle to begin anew.
- @LetMeVsBots At least as it pertains to pubs, your sentiments are kind of how I feel. If pubs were more randomized, then at least you would be able to mitigate your overall success by practicing and improving above the median skill. So if you wanted to win more consistently, you could practice.
As it stands now, you can achieve significant improvement in ability but not win more consistently because the algorithm is intentionally pitting you against players to ensure your win rate remains in line with all players (save the top 1%).@Axs5626Sxa5001A couple things,
I'm not even talking about winning. On trios, winning is a 1/20 chance. Winning every 20th game isn't a big deal to me. What I hate most of all is feeling like a fight is unfair for any reason, be it getting matched with better players, being shot through walls, or enemies teleporting around.
Secondly, not everybody has an improvement mentality. I don't give a crap about being amazing or getting better. I just want to shoot gun. I'm slightly above average, always have been, and always will be. I don't care to change it. I play for fun with friends and that's it. If I want to get good I'll go play elden ring or something. I should not be getting rubber banded between skilled and unskilled lobbies so often.
