Ok, so here is the real question.
Do you think SMBB is necessary in fps pvp games? I do no think it is. PVP is competitive, there is only sweat, no casual mode. You want to win, get better. SBMM means the guy who spent 500 ho...
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@reconzero "This is very true. And yet as business managers with a responsibility to shareholders to maximize profit, you can be guaranteed that these developers will behave in a way that may well appear to you and to me as "unreasonably greedy," but is in fact their attempt to maximize the player base, the revenue, the profits, and thus keep their jobs or maybe set themselves up with a glowing resumé so they can get an even better one."
We can at least agree on this too. It's disgusting actually. Like, where are we even headed?
We can at least agree on this too. It's disgusting actually. Like, where are we even headed?
@Unitee01
"It's disgusting actually. Like, where are we even headed?"
You don't have to wonder where we're headed. We're already there and we have been since the first game studio went public and started selling stock on an exchange. Bad decisions made with the stated goal of expanding the franchise, the playerbase, the experience... decisions which you and I can see are plainly not going to produce the desired result. Hell, look at where Halo is at right now. No game has ever had so much money thrown at it with all the right intentions just to have it produce such pitiful results. I can't understand how developers can be so out of touch with reality, but there you have it. Respawn certainly isn't to that point with Titanfall/Apex, but give it thirteen years to catch up. I'm sure it won't be pretty.
"It's disgusting actually. Like, where are we even headed?"
You don't have to wonder where we're headed. We're already there and we have been since the first game studio went public and started selling stock on an exchange. Bad decisions made with the stated goal of expanding the franchise, the playerbase, the experience... decisions which you and I can see are plainly not going to produce the desired result. Hell, look at where Halo is at right now. No game has ever had so much money thrown at it with all the right intentions just to have it produce such pitiful results. I can't understand how developers can be so out of touch with reality, but there you have it. Respawn certainly isn't to that point with Titanfall/Apex, but give it thirteen years to catch up. I'm sure it won't be pretty.
- @reconzero Ok just for reference Titanfall is done. It's never coming back. Destiny is headed there too btw. Yeah I'd say that a lot of what is keeping fps alive is actually...wait for it....streamers.....like you hate lol. They do good things and it is often over looked. Me, I would kick Aztecross' * irl lol but not in Desiny 🙂
@Unitee01
Please describe the "good things" streamers do because I need the refresher. From where I'm standing they're pretty exclusively corrosive.
@gg123xyz
I don't care if you have 56 kills in one match. If you can't get #57 because #57 killed you then you're still dead. Which means you lost. You're just a dead loser.
There are two things I hate about this game. One is streamers and the entire streaming culture. Two is the very mistaken idea that kills are somehow more important than winning. I guess the second one is understandable as most players can sort of wrap their heads around the possibility that they might get a kill or two in the normal course of a match. But winning, they seem to believe, is some sort of strange alchemy that's beyond their abilities or control. So they spend every single match they play making decisions they think will net them kills, and they do it without even realizing that most of those decisions are actively pushing the win farther away from them. And to bring one and two together: it's the streamers that are largely responsible for creating that idiotic mindset, the mindset that says if you get a bunch of kills and then die that you're somehow still a winner. Sorry, but no.
Sorry. Rant over.
@reconzero wrote:@Unitee01
Please describe the "good things" streamers do because I need the refresher. From where I'm standing they're pretty exclusively corrosive.
@gg123xyz
I don't care if you have 56 kills in one match. If you can't get #57 because #57 killed you then you're still dead. Which means you lost. You're just a dead loser.
There are two things I hate about this game. One is streamers and the entire streaming culture. Two is the very mistaken idea that kills are somehow more important than winning. I guess the second one is understandable as most players can sort of wrap their heads around the possibility that they might get a kill or two in the normal course of a match. But winning, they seem to believe, is some sort of strange alchemy that's beyond their abilities or control. So they spend every single match they play making decisions they think will net them kills, and they do it without even realizing that most of those decisions are actively pushing the win farther away from them. And to bring one and two together: it's the streamers that are largely responsible for creating that idiotic mindset, the mindset that says if you get a bunch of kills and then die that you're somehow still a winner. Sorry, but no.
Sorry. Rant over.i dont think i said its ok to want kills and not a win. if you think i did i didnt. k?
- @Unitee01
"They [streamers] do good things and it is often over looked."
My impression of streamers has always been that they give a game exposure and in exchange developers make a lot of very questionable decisions which benefit the best players at the expense of everyone else. It doesn't always work that way, but it does more often than not. Unless you can tell me that the majority of them play for charity or run soup kitchens in their spare time then I'm not really sure what "good things" it is that you're saying they do. ??? - @reconzero Yes, exactly, they act as advertising essentially. Sure, they basically create a false sense of what the game is about because they are so good at it and now every scrub think they are too if they do the same... I get that too. But I think overall they are a force for good. They hype people up to play and I think that is a good thing. They did also make the landscape more sweaty by people trying to copy them, I get that also. But I still think content keeps games relevant longer, at least.
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