Please explain why randoms do this so often
Run away from their teammates immediately after they hit the ground, push the first 1v3 they see, immediately die, and then call you trash &/or ping enemies at warp speed. Why?
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@NickBeam27True, but my randoms are running off and dying at a ridiculous rate this week.
Noob or not, boosted or not, how long does it take you doing this to figure out that you're going to die almost immediately?
How does anybody think that is fun when they die pushing their first 1v3 99% of the time?
I just don't get it.
@HappyHourSumwur
"How does anybody think that is fun when they die pushing their first 1v3 99% of the time?"
Because they watch some idiot streamer who explained to them that if you want to get good at Apex you have to be prepared to die a lot. And then unfortunately for all of us that streamer didn't keep explaining that dying isn't the only thing you need to do to get good at the game. So these kids think "drop hot, die, repeat until good." And they really believe it.
"How does anybody think that is fun when they die pushing their first 1v3 99% of the time?"
Because they watch some idiot streamer who explained to them that if you want to get good at Apex you have to be prepared to die a lot. And then unfortunately for all of us that streamer didn't keep explaining that dying isn't the only thing you need to do to get good at the game. So these kids think "drop hot, die, repeat until good." And they really believe it.
- @reconzero This is the problem with the "20-second attention span" generation, and the nation's 1% masters like it that way because then they don't pay attention to how they are getting drilled over.
- @Kyldenar Yup. My theory has been that that is exactly why the streamers and pros recommend this futile playstyle, so they make all these kids hot-drop with them and they can make content off of them. Not to mention badge farming them.
@CCbathwater wrote:
@KyldenarYup. My theory has been that that is exactly why the streamers and pros recommend this futile playstyle, so they make all these kids hot-drop with them and they can make content off of them. Not to mention badge farming them.Oh, exactly!
Long time ago there used to be a Guild Wars 2 PvP streamer, went by 'Lord Helseth' or some such.
Now, he was a very good Mesmer player. Frequently top 5 of the PvP ladders in the game, with a class that is by and large totally nerfed outside of the ability to abuse the AI with your illusion clones (cause they pull aggro for you). Can't deny his raw skill.
But also can't deny he spent a lot of time trying to talk new players into PvP so he and his organized team could stomp them for content. He never SAID that was what he was doing, but similar speeches of, "It takes time and losing a lot to get this good first. You gotta come into PvP with us to learn."
Read: "Become my content, peasants!"Pretty much EVERY streamer for PvP only games is 100% dependent on being able to take advantage of Type 4 and Type 5 players (which constantly churn and are replaced) for their content. You notice that most of them leave these PvP games for new pastures (like Helseth did GW2) once enough type 4 and 5 churn out of the game leaving only types 1 to 3, which makes it harder for them to get content on stream that makes them look good. Once they start having to fight on their level, they look for a new game to abuse.
Apex is starting to head that way now.
- @reconzero I never fully believed the "hot dropping is the way to get gud" argument. I can understand that if you are an adrenaline junkie, then you naturally like hot drops more and hate a slower pace, more strategic approach.
- @HappyHourSumwur
I agree that it defies logic, but someone as reputable as Raynday said very early on, "You're gonna have to be willing to get in there and mix it up... and die. A lot. Before you get good." Paraphrasing, but that's pretty much exactly what he said. And if someone as sane as he is says it then I have to assume they're all saying it.
And while I find the concept repugnant, I can at least acknowledge that there is a grain of truth in it. It wasn't my personal path to "getting gud," but it is one way forward.I agree with Recon, they watch too many pro streamers and think that they can do the same??
