This is the worst piece of GARBAGE i have ever seen put into this game. You have a RANK system, why the fk do u have this garbage in the game ? Seriously you create a game that IN MY OPINION is one of the best FPS games out there apart from the mass amount of stupid bugs like i dunno the fkn sound that is broken and gets worse every single patch you put through...You are slowly DESTROYING this game with these stupid implementations THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR. Where do you get your stats from ? Who asked for this garbage ? AGAIN , THIS GAME HAS A RANKED MODE. GET RID OF THIS TRASH YOU CALL SBMM BEFORE YOU LOSE MORE PEOPLE. FFS LOOK AT THE OCE SIDE OF APEX. THE GAME IS BORDERLINE DEAD IN AUSTRALIA.

@RipjawsAU-TTV 1. No need to curse so knock it off. 2. Players on the forum did ask for SBMM especially lower skill players. They were sick of being easy kills for high skill players.You might not understand it but imagine being a low skill player and having no place they can survive? No place they can play and learn from trial and error? They were dumped into lobbies with other high skill players who just mow them down..You literally are asking for an option that allows you to noob bash because playing against players of equal skill is to hard.It’s no different then a heavy weight boxer asking to be put into light weight because heavy weight matches are difficult.

@DoYaSeeMe I can answer that one from a solo player standpoint. You had the chance to meet mixed groups playing. I have been getting randoms in the level 20-50 area coonsistently for 3 weeks now, facing squads that are not. There is no balance from my viewpoint, and this has been my stance on this issue since near the end of season 2. It is not a new hot button topic for myself, nor for many others that are on the forum or on reddit. It is just getting painted that way by a select few people who read what they want to in what we are saying.If you want balance fine have balance. Protect noobs ok, but that is not the case. If you are experiencing it in pre-mades great. But I am solo now my friends quit playing yet again,(3rd round of friends since season1) so here I sit as a basically casual player. I played ranked until plat and then stopped. I stopped playing ranked because my friends were lower and didn't want to play ranked in Plat, which was near the beginning of season 3. So on paper I am Plat, and face equivalent squads let's say in random cue matches in normal Apex. Yet my teammates have little to no experience. It is not uncommon to have 5 games in a row with teammates less than level 50 and they play for the most part like noobs. SO in response to your queries on the subject, I am curious as to how the balance of this game is even working in any fashion. Almost every game I play I am 1 v 3, either my teammates are down, running away or looting in every fight. Now I am not Rambo and chasing fights in all of these games. Sometimes my teammates take a popshot and then run away. Whatever. After I am dead and if my teammates are dead also I get the joy of spectating the enemy who just wiped us and lo and behold there is the 4k damage badge along with 20 kill streak. Now I am no slouch at this game, but I am far from a Predator level player I have 2k damage badges on a couple of legends and have had a decent run in this game. But my feeling and this is how I feel about the random games in the current state, I am facing down squads every game who have players equal to or better than my skillset, yet I do not have teammates even in the realm of being able to aid in fighting these squads. This isn't just 2 out of 5 games, or 4 out of 5. Last night alone I tried playing and kept count in 10 games I had 1 player over level 50 on my squad. So a 10% chance I might have a player to help fight off the higher skilled or equal skilled players? (below level 50 does not equate to a bad player, but it has been my experience lately that it is)In essence if SBMM is going to stay either teammates need to be somehow better matched in random or Solo is going to have to be an option. I am off Apex for awhile now anyways between this and the serious server problems as of late, I can play MW and it runs butter smooth, so I will be spending my time there. But I will miss Apex, the gameplay is what keeps me coming back it is all of this bs that drives me away.To sum up if SBMM worked as intended and your squad and your enemies were on the same or close levels fine, but seriously it is not even close. Again, being paired with sub 50 level players seems there is an issue there. Maybe it is time to hit discord up yet again for a 4th round of friends who might stay in apex for more than a week so I can actually play pre-made again and see how that feels. If that doesn't clear up the issue I see with SBMM right now in it's current state I don't know what will. And tbh I don't even understand why anyone would want it in casual anyways. Sure it will balance for a while, but I have to suspect these sub 50 players I have been getting in my lobby don't appreciate running into full squads of never miss wingman gunslingers either. Maybe that was the intent of SBMM, but it is failing from my perspective anyways. I miss the old matchmaking where if you did get a potato squad you at least had the chance you might run up against another one as well. That seems to not be the case.Put the SBMM in ranked and leave it there if you need to have it, and give us solos if you are going to keep it in the whole game anyways. I don't have a problem playing against equal skilled or even better players, but 1 v 3 seems to be a bit much especially game after game after game, and so on.

@DarthValtrex Man, should have just let this post die. At least we wouldn't have to see it. I do agree with all your points though.

@RipjawsAU-TTV The voting polls limited people know exist? You do realize that without SBMM that most people will run into cheater and get regularly owned by the sweats and cheaters. I myself have never entered in a voting poll for SBMM and I can assure you that I like SBMM. Most people don't know about the polls. I feel like SBMM has given me a better chance of winning than against a bunch of assorted people. Would you prefer to get beat up every match, or have an even fighting chance every match, because those are you options.

I would prefer Respawn listen to what their player base wants and SBMM is not one of those things.

Pls, for the sake of your game REMOVE SBMM

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DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago
@RipjawsAU-TTV 1. No need to curse so knock it off. 2. Players on the forum did ask for SBMM especially lower skill players. They were sick of being easy kills for high skill players.

You might not understand it but imagine being a low skill player and having no place they can survive? No place they can play and learn from trial and error? They were dumped into lobbies with other high skill players who just mow them down..

You literally are asking for an option that allows you to noob bash because playing against players of equal skill is to hard.

It’s no different then a heavy weight boxer asking to be put into light weight because heavy weight matches are difficult.
ZergSquad
6 years ago
what is SBMM ???
CrazyPlays54
6 years ago
@DarthValtrex Man, should have just let this post die. At least we wouldn't have to see it. I do agree with all your points though.
RipjawsAU-TTV
6 years ago
@DarthValtrex the voting polls that numberous peope have put up shows a strong dislike for this SBMM system. Its not about "owning noobs" its about playing the game and relaxing. If i wanted to play where i had everyone at my skill lvl i would go sweat in rank mode.

Also i apologize for my 2 curse words. I didnt mean to invade your sensitive safe space.
CrazyPlays54
6 years ago
@RipjawsAU-TTV The voting polls limited people know exist? You do realize that without SBMM that most people will run into cheater and get regularly owned by the sweats and cheaters. I myself have never entered in a voting poll for SBMM and I can assure you that I like SBMM. Most people don't know about the polls. I feel like SBMM has given me a better chance of winning than against a bunch of assorted people. Would you prefer to get beat up every match, or have an even fighting chance every match, because those are you options.
RipjawsAU-TTV
6 years ago
I would prefer Respawn listen to what their player base wants and SBMM is not one of those things.
CrazyPlays54
6 years ago
@RipjawsAU-TTV I wish that people would complain this much about bugs instead of SBMM.
RipjawsAU-TTV
6 years ago
Bruh ......i did mention the sound bug in my OP :P
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago
@RipjawsAU-TTV It is about owning noobs because you want an easy lobby. You don’t want a lobby of equally skilled players. You’re all complaining that it’s to hard and to sweaty. So if it’s not the difficulty of SBMM and you don’t want to bash noobs what’s the issue?!

From there your polls don’t mean a thing. Most players don’t know what SBMM is, if they do they don’t know or care about the polls. Toss in that most of you who hate SBMM are already smurfing accounts.. so you’ll probably smurf accounts to sway the poll and tell all your like minded buddies to vote in the poll. They are not scientific polls that only allow one vote per person.
RipjawsAU-TTV
6 years ago
@DarthValtrex I would express myself to you but unfortunately you have shown me that you cannot handle a little cursing therefore i will refrain from responding to you as i do not want to ruin your day.

I hope you have a really good day friend and remember to look both ways before crossing the street and make sure you put on sunscreen. Dont wanna get any sunburn on that sensitive skin of yours.