I’m actually enjoying my best KD I’ve had on probably 7 seasons at least (just to show I’m not being a rat myself and I leveled up from bronze 4 to Diamond 1 in under 2 weeks), so I’m not sure how much I can attribute to the supposed new matchmaking system. That being said, the rat teammates are out of control.

@DaDeDimson wrote:I’m actually enjoying my best KD I’ve had on probably 7 seasons at least (just to show I’m not being a rat myself and I leveled up from bronze 4 to Diamond 1 in under 2 weeks), so I’m not sure how much I can attribute to the supposed new matchmaking system. That being said, the rat teammates are out of control.So, um, just to be sure, this is you talking about how you mute yourself every match and don't communicate with your team at all right?I'd also point out that, as discussed in that thread and so famously said by Wraith, the point of a BR is, "All that matters is being the last one alive." aka WINNING.If all you want to do is fight and kill, they have Deathmatch modes for you now.

@DaDeDimson Yeah i think I’ve only had one or two hardcore rats but it’s a little silly. I had a teammate I believe was Gold 2 as Revenant break off from us immediately and rat the entire game, my teammate and I cleared some squads and tried to regroup and the Revenant refused to help or engage.We made 3rd and at the end the Rev would only take shots if it got him an easy knock, i think we could have won with their help but they were committed to hiding. I have to admit we might not have made 3rd if he wasnt ratting at the end but it was still annoying. I know there are arguments on here about the legitimacy of ratting from the start so its hard to say whats right or wrong but we definitely could have used the help

@Kyldenar Well, watched my friend who streams... she had a teammate (a Valk btw), landing in a tree on drop. Didn't even pick up guns or anything. Just sitting in a tree, not moving until she had to. That is taking it a bit to the extreme, I feel. You also have to be very lucky if you wanna win as a solo, and an unarmed solo on top of that.

@DaDeDimson I prefer the previous ranked systems to this.BUT, I actually don’t blame the players. They are utilizing a strategy that is netting them points. Especially if you are solo queuing, I can’t blame someone for taking their own rank into their hands (because trying to work with randoms often results in failure). It’s unfortunate but ratting is a consistent way to earn LP.

It is actually back to the first ranked season or season 2 of apex. People ratted all the time. Placement gave points. Season 2 of ranked changed that or season 3 of apex. Which was by far the best season of ranked. It was also the season of the hammer that got dropped on disconnect diamond players. Honestly the suckiest part of this season is the hidden matchmaking and no actual ranks. It is just pubs for me. 2 teammates who want to hot drop every game do some damage and die immediately. I don’t see making diamond this season since I started in rookie. And for what little points you get unless you win it will be a season long grind of minus 35 points with no real reward for having a good game. Just finished a 3 kill game in fifth place for 142 points both my teammates died on landing and I rotated and fought my butt off for those kills late in the game. So in essence I get 3 free entries which will get consumed on the next three games because my team will hot drop and I probably won’t survive it.one thing is for sure with every change respawn makes, they don’t want solo players. Period. So if you solo this game just try and have fun on your own. I gave up on the requests for solo mode. If you play in a premade maybe it’s better. I gave up after season on season of my squads quitting apex altogether. Been solo since season 4 and this is the first season where I am not even going to try for diamond. I am going to okay ranked and stick on my teammates like white on rice. Not pinging an enemy or rotation if they die I will rat away. I shall play it the way respawn wants it.

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Kyldenar
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@DaDeDimson wrote:
I’m actually enjoying my best KD I’ve had on probably 7 seasons at least (just to show I’m not being a rat myself and I leveled up from bronze 4 to Diamond 1 in under 2 weeks), so I’m not sure how much I can attribute to the supposed new matchmaking system.

That being said, the rat teammates are out of control.
So, um, just to be sure, this is you talking about how you mute yourself every match and don't communicate with your team at all right?
I'd also point out that, as discussed in that thread and so famously said by Wraith, the point of a BR is, "All that matters is being the last one alive." aka WINNING.
If all you want to do is fight and kill, they have Deathmatch modes for you now.
MyName1sNotJohn
3 years ago
@DaDeDimson Yeah i think I’ve only had one or two hardcore rats but it’s a little silly. I had a teammate I believe was Gold 2 as Revenant break off from us immediately and rat the entire game, my teammate and I cleared some squads and tried to regroup and the Revenant refused to help or engage.

We made 3rd and at the end the Rev would only take shots if it got him an easy knock, i think we could have won with their help but they were committed to hiding. I have to admit we might not have made 3rd if he wasnt ratting at the end but it was still annoying. I know there are arguments on here about the legitimacy of ratting from the start so its hard to say whats right or wrong but we definitely could have used the help
CCbathwater
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Kyldenar Well, watched my friend who streams... she had a teammate (a Valk btw), landing in a tree on drop. Didn't even pick up guns or anything. Just sitting in a tree, not moving until she had to. That is taking it a bit to the extreme, I feel. You also have to be very lucky if you wanna win as a solo, and an unarmed solo on top of that.
DaDeDimson
3 years ago
@KyldenarI mean, my last post and this one can both be true. I rarely ever had teammates camp the whole match until this season. I get doing it to gain points easily and simply get the win but you still gain more from at least trying in the match as long as you’re accurate and strategic.

Most of my wins in ranked have been from, as I said in my last post, muting randoms (not when I play with friends) I get matched up with (it’s easier to focus on my surroundings that way, also as previously explained) and it’s earned me at least a Diamond rank nearly every season I’ve played consistently in.

This is purely an observational post, I’m still overall content with my performance this season, and doing so from muting while solo-queuing, so I’m not going to backtrack anything I said, whatever your point is.
DaDeDimson
3 years ago
@MyName1sNotJohn yup that’s happened to me a few times the last couple weeks as well. Either they’ll land on the other side of the map and camp from the start or land with me but go off and do it later on.

Overall I’ve actually been doing pretty well in ranked this far (not sure if it’s due to the supposed upgrades in matchmaking or I’m just playing better as of late) but I’ve probably been cost some points from teammates doing that. At this point it’s just me complaining because I’m greedy despite my improved performance lol.
DaDeDimson
3 years ago
@Rixit7788Was this in response to my post? Because I’m saying I’m in favor of getting kills and playing to win.

I’m not sure if it would help to actually increase the entry costs to what they were pre-season 12ish (whenever they increased from the first several seasons) or just give more RP to kills and assists than what’s currently handed out.

I thought the entry costs from the past few seasons were overly aggressive compared to what it began as.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@DaDeDimson

I'm with @Kyldenar on this one.

"That being said, the rat teammates are out of control."

This is what Maggie would call an oxymoron. They (we) are often the only players in the entire match who exhibit any form of self-control whatsoever.
Axs5626Sxa5001
3 years ago
@DaDeDimson I prefer the previous ranked systems to this.

BUT, I actually don’t blame the players. They are utilizing a strategy that is netting them points. Especially if you are solo queuing, I can’t blame someone for taking their own rank into their hands (because trying to work with randoms often results in failure). It’s unfortunate but ratting is a consistent way to earn LP.
Rixit7788
3 years ago
Nah was talking about that guy Kyldenar. Attitudes like that are toxic. If you want to be a rat go play metal gear solid on your ps2
Cro_Pittt
3 years ago
@Kyldenar Except for the fact that you WILL NOT WIN if you don't even loot, which happens all the time with people dropping on trees and ratting to top 2 at best then giving up. Yeah, really nice strategy.