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Re: Allow Us To Pick

@johnmiceter Uhhh we never had issues finding matches. That is a weird thing to say. Even when we could opt out we still were in-game within seconds.

I don't care about controls movement whatever argument can be thrown up means nothing to me. I don't want to play against aim assist in a competitive game. We want to play against our platform players. In ranked it means all the difference in up-close fights. I don't care if someone thinks they could outrun or out move a gun that locks onto you and lasers you. Any big-time pro player will even say this. They even complain about it...

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  • @E9ine_AC My brother has played PC ranked for a long time (close to 1 year) and he got sick of it saying, its hard to find games and when you do, he always ran into hackers.

    He is a Predator on PC and on Console (or was on console) now he is back on console again because he is over it.
  • @E9ine_AC Btw, try using a controller on PC and see how much aim assist you get. You can only assume its a locked on laser, but do it and find out. Dont go off other peoples opinions until you try it.
  • ILostT0Loba's avatar
    ILostT0Loba
    5 years ago

    @johnmiceter 

    It's not about advantages and disadvantages. It's about competitive integrity, mouse users work so hard to fine-tune their aim and have to go up against aim assist that helps controller players massively in close range. Don't say mouse has better movement and mid-range aim, while the game is essentially 50% just close range.

    Take for example a person who has two legs and is put in a race with a person with amputated legs on a wheelchair with motorized controls. Doesn't matter who wins, it's not fair for BOTH sides. Just like how KBM users can use their whole hand while controller players can only use their thumb, but they shouldn't be competing with each other in the first place!

    The bottom line is you are getting some help, doesn't matter if it's minute or you can only use your thumb(you chose to do it), from outside while KBM users have to 100% rely on their hand movement.

    What the game needs is input segregation. Let controller players play with their own, and KBM users restricted to PC lobbies only. And also remove input restriction based on platform i.e Console players aren't allowed to use KBM but many of them want to. That's the only way it's ever gonna be fair for BOTH controller and KBM players. Emphasis on *both*

  • johnmiceter's avatar
    johnmiceter
    5 years ago

    @ILostT0LobaYour claiming it has such an advantage though and what im saying have you tried it yourself ? Its not that easy still vsing a mouse and keyboard player.

    You should play a fair few games and then come back and let me know. You still have to be a top controller player to kill a mouse and keyboard player.

    Also, I would love that also, as I dont want to play PC players.

  • ILostT0Loba's avatar
    ILostT0Loba
    5 years ago
    @johnmiceter So nobody except top controller players can kill KBM players? That's not true at all.

    I don't own a controller, but I have heard from other console players who have played in PC lobbies. They struggle in mid-range and movement, but can go toe-toe in close range.

    The bottom line they shouldn't be playing with each other, both have their advantages and disadvantages but having one advantage doesn't equate to having another disadvantage. Console players don't like PC players with their movement, and PC players don't like 'crossplay' shoved into their face.

    I already suggested what should be done to fix this for the betterment of BOTH SIDES. I may be blunt but I don't hate controller players.
  • johnmiceter's avatar
    johnmiceter
    5 years ago
    @ILostT0Loba Thats the thing, a lot of keyboard and mouse have heard and played against console players, but until you physically try using a controller on PC for yourself, you won't truly know.

    Its way, way harder then you think, ive used a controller my whole life.

    And maybe the devs have no choice to have cross play, because more and more people are leaving Apex everyday.
  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    5 years ago

    @johnmiceterI have tried controller I absolutely mutilated the lobby first time ever using a controller in apex legends. 15 kills 3200 damage very first time. I speak from someone who plays against it every single day. I also say this as someone who melted a lobby his very first time ever using it in this game.

    Don't assume people have not tried it.... Watch Thesorans game also. First time on controller dude goes from 400 damage to 2200 in a matter of 60 seconds. While screaming AA is broken im quiting the game this is BS and more. How can someone who never used controller on this game able to absolutely fry a lobby? If its not as broken as you say then we would have a lot more troubles to achieve this seeing it is our first time using said device on pc. . My argument still stands. If i wanted to play against console users i would own a console to do so. 

    I went from putting in 5 to 7k games in a single season. To only putting in 600 so far this season. I am not someone who plays a hour a day i put my life into this game. For life to throw unfair game play in a ranked setting. I honestly dont care what anyone thinks about this argument this is why i have the problem. If i a person who has never used a controller on pc can fry a lobby with minimal effort then there is a effin problem.

    I would also like to add before cross-play came out i was a pred myself. I had no problems finding games. Until you try both yourself as you suggest to everyone else here then dont speak on it. I dont care what your brother has to say or think. You try them both then speak on it. Cause I have.

  • @E9ine_AC ooh ok cool and I got a 20 kill game using a keyboard and mouse blindfolded while eating dinner and never played on pc before either, first game honestly.
  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    5 years ago
    @johnmiceter That is cool and all but means nothing to me. I dont want to play against aim assist in a rank setting. This is not balanced game play nor fair to both crowds. Both have advantages neither of them a good trade off for either side. In order to be a true competitive game we need to play against our platform.

    Granting advantages in ranked games is not fair it is not balanced it destroys the ranked system. Nothing about it is fair. I'd rather play with cheaters then i would against AA. Cause at least then i know besides their cheats it was fair match up.

    All I have ever begged for on these forums is 100% fair game play. We wont have this until they limit the lobbies to support paired users and seperate each console or pc to their own lobbies as it was before. There is no argument you can make for someone wanting fair game play.

    I also doubt you have 20 kill game whats so ever. If you did you would of used this argument from the start. I got them on 5 legends it means nothing all i want is fair game play.

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