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Re: Apex is a good game absolutely ruined by it’s playerbase

@c5bwq92o0x8l Oh yeah the playerbase is horrible but that's the case for every online game. In every game there are varying degrees of toxic players and hacks. In every game players will blame teammates for failures they likely contributed to themselves.

However Apex is horribly flawed in two simple ways. It randomizes teams of players that have very different playstyles and goals. That wouldn't be that much of a problem if everyone agreed on a main goal but that leads into the second problem.

The primary goal is survival but the most fun aspect is fighting. Fighting in no way aids survival and simply surviving isn't fun. Who wants to play a game that isn't fun? Who wants to play using a losing tactic? This contradiction will lead players to drop with very different goals while looking down on eachother for playing in a way that they think is wrong.

Apex COULD introduce an ingame function that makes fighting beneficial towards winning or forces/presses combat. That gives players a consistent short term goal that aids both types of players "I want to kill", "I want to win" in achieving their main goals.

Apex doesn't do that so it's fun and interesting but also kinda meh.

6 Replies

AnyBrains
2 years ago
@Zamaha400

VERY GOOD POINTS!

We could certainly use more pings that create a better support/player situation, because this is really lacking the way people play together, especially when you play as a Random player. Randoms is really chaos, and we need more Pings to improve this.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Zamaha400

"The primary goal is survival but the most fun aspect is fighting. Fighting in no way aids survival and simply surviving isn't fun. Who wants to play a game that isn't fun? Who wants to play using a losing tactic?"

Never heard it put so well.
II-LAZZARUS-II
2 years ago
"The primary goal is survival but the most fun aspect is fighting. Fighting in no way aids survival and simply surviving isn't fun. Who wants to play a game that isn't fun? Who wants to play using a losing tactic?"
This could be solved very fast.
Now you only get points if you don't fight and survive till the top 9.
They could leave that as it is, and only add that you also get points when you kill someone. So both player bases would be happy.
The ones who like to fight from the gecko, and the others who don't.
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
@II-LAZZARUS-II Totally agree. There needs to be a balance like there is in algs.
hayhor
Hero
2 years ago
Unfortunately online gaming has always will be and will always be toxic.
KelRiever
2 years ago
I think not getting a score if you didn’t, say, cause damage to an opponent before you hit top 10 would only prove how badly Apex, and Battle Royake fames, are set up for that.
What people actually want is something more like Vontrol, or Arenas, or TDM. I don’t think they actually want a BR format even if they say they do. And I’ve been on this for a while.
Battle Royales are not good games for competition.