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Re: Bullet sponges

i agree but you will never get a casual to agree to this honestly. If it takes more than 3/4 of a clip in a game to kill its too much. If you ask the average person on here they will say we need more armor it should take 100 mags to kill someone. they are already complaining about how the peacekeeper does actual damage and you dont have to shoot them with 50 mags to down them. Casuals want bullet sponge thats all their is to it. They don't want a game that actually is about skill now it is who has the bigger mag is who is going to win period`

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  • Prupisek's avatar
    Prupisek
    7 years ago
    Not dying in few bullets actually makes this game interesting, unlike pubg or fortnite where you can die from full hp instantly giving you no counterplay. Just keep playing apex it can be frustrating at start but once you get better you actually realize there are no bullet sponges and instead its nicely balanced. Some people say it takes away tactics and ability to 1v3, but thats not true it just takes away camping tactic and shooting enemies in back for some cheap kills. Its doable to do 1v3 and even win entire match alone without using WM or PK, i managed to do that few times so I'm not referring to pros like shroud, seagull and so on.
  • i have won plenty of times and got plenty of kills getting better isn't the problem its the problem of do you want a game of skill or a game of pointlessness either game be fun but one has no place in a BR that is inherently about skill

  • thebeast117's avatar
    thebeast117
    7 years ago

    Skill? Games with higher hit-points encourage dueling, which takes more skill to begin with. You can't tell me that Unreal Tournament or Halo are not high skill games. That was the entire issue with PUBG, because a good player could get shot in the back by some camper with zero skill. In Apex, Halo, or Unreal Tournament etc etc if I get shot in the back by someone it does not mean that I'll lose the fight. 

  • neillkorey's avatar
    neillkorey
    7 years ago

    @AlphaWolfofnight 

    you really don’t seem to know what you are talking about higher ttk will always be better for the player with higher gun skill the lower ttk allows spray and pray as an option not to mention lower ttk helps campers which are usually lower skilled players I would like you to give me an example how higher ttk helps noobs cause I can not think of one

  • this thread cracks me up, the OP and people agreeing with him must be VERY bad at tracking and aiming. here is some simple math for you: a stock R-301 magazine (18 rounds) will do 252 damage to the body only if you land every round. that means you can "one clip" anyone in the game, regardless of their armor, without hitting ANY headshots, with the most basic assault rifle with no magazine size upgrade.

    a stock spitfire magazine (35 rounds) does 700 damage.

    a stock flatline does 320 damage.

    the prowler does 70 damage per 5 round burst, 3 well aimed bursts will down anyone in the game.

    and the new Havoc? it does 420 damage in a 25 round magazine. keep mind these are BODY SHOT damage figures.

    the most anyone can have in this game is 200 total damage resistance (100 shields, 100 HP) before being downed, then another 100 HP to be killed once you're downed. so, at worst, it's 300 damage required to outright kill someone, but 200 is all you need to remove them from the fight. A LOT of the guns in this game are capable of doing more than enough damage in a single magazine to down someone. you can technically down an entire squad with just 6 rounds from the Peacekeeper without reloading once.

    the idea that anyone out there is whining about needing 4 magazines to kill anything is absolutely sad and it says a lot about your aiming and tracking skills as a gamer. if you want the kind of easymode low skill game where things die in 2 bullets and you get guaranteed frags for simply shooting first (as opposed to actually aiming and tracking targets), then leave Apex Legends and go back to R6 Siege which requires almost zero mechanical aiming/tracking skills because everything dies so fast. if camping (sorry "holding angles tactically") is the way you need to play shooters to get kills then there are tons of those boring shooters for you to play. PUBG is perfect for you, you already have your campfest battle royale that doesn't require much mechanical skill.

    end of the day: it takes way more skill to keep shots on target and track enemies than it does to shoot them one or two times and win. the idea that anyone complains about this is a mirror of their insecurity about their lack of aiming skill. i down people VERY fast in this game and i almost never need a reload to deal with a 1v1 situation.

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