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Re: Cheaters on PS4

- They turn around 180 degrees suddenly.

* raise your sensitivity. it will appear as they do things faster than you because of network desync 

- They kill me with a few shots from any weapon.

*same reason as first 

- They get me every time from every distance and every weapon using full-auto, independent of whether I'm running or standing still.

*this game has heavy aim assist yet I see people saying it has none. I find it incredible some people don't feel it on console 

- They know exactly where I am and they are doing prefire, though they should not.

*you'd have to give an example. it could be several. things, none of them hacks. 

I ask you to watch some. videos that explain better than I can. the networking in Apex Legends is far from ideal. I even suggest reading the latest news post:  they say "they could solve the issue by spending money on more/faster servers but for some rea$on they are just gonna go with the economy server bundle. 

youtube search: Battlenonsence, the guys name is Chris, his recent videos analyze the issue and will explain to you why you feel like your listed issues are. cheats but it's really just desync between the players 

- They do everything above that despite having 200+ ping

check out the videos. he explains this very thing. it's called lag compensation and it favors the lagger. because I guess they wanna be accessible for people with poor connections to buy skins. the game is free after all

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  •  I was in skulltown and the guy went to the side of the open door. I was facing him and saw the bullets come thru the wall and hit me for a knockdown. So he could target and shoot through a wall. When I was downed my movement way slower than any other time i've been downed and a third guy came in behind me while I was down and he got taken down just like I did. Through the wall. *Edit *All of this is server issues and lag.

  • I love when cheats try to defend other cheaters on the forum claiming that there are no cheaters or inventing hundreds of excuses.

  • Silz616's avatar
    Silz616
    7 years ago

    @preyandplay wrote:

    I love when cheats try to defend other cheaters on the forum claiming that there are no cheaters or inventing hundreds of excuses.


    You cannot cheat online with a PS4.

    No excuses needed. That's a fact. But you keep the conspiracy theories if that makes you feel better.. 

    The issues stated above are to do with connection/home network.


  • @Silz616 wrote:

    @preyandplay wrote:

    I love when cheats try to defend other cheaters on the forum claiming that there are no cheaters or inventing hundreds of excuses.


    You cannot cheat online with a PS4.

    No excuses needed. That's a fact. But you keep the conspiracy theories if that makes you feel better.. 

    The issues stated above are to do with connection/home network.


    Yes, you can cheat on a PS4. You could even install Linux prior to firmware 1.76, which openes up a lot more issues.  Connection issues are not the same as cheats, or a lag switch. Connection issues tend to effect yourself in a negative manor, and never, ever give you any form of benefit, since it's not something that can be controlled. 

    Not to mention :https://support.playstation.com/s/article/Information-on-Banned-Accounts-and-Consoles?language=en_US

    "Cheating
    Doing or utilizing anything that gives the player a greater advantage than is intended for normal gameplay."

    If it was not possible, Sony would not be banning people for doing it, or even have it listed as a reason to get banned. 

  • Silz616's avatar
    Silz616
    7 years ago

    @Jungle-Beard wrote:

    @Silz616 wrote:

    @preyandplay wrote:

    I love when cheats try to defend other cheaters on the forum claiming that there are no cheaters or inventing hundreds of excuses.


    You cannot cheat online with a PS4.

    No excuses needed. That's a fact. But you keep the conspiracy theories if that makes you feel better.. 

    The issues stated above are to do with connection/home network.


    Yes, you can cheat on a PS4. You could even install Linux prior to firmware 1.76, which openes up a lot more issues.  Connection issues are not the same as cheats, or a lag switch. Connection issues tend to effect yourself in a negative manor, and never, ever give you any form of benefit, since it's not something that can be controlled. 

    Not to mention :https://support.playstation.com/s/article/Information-on-Banned-Accounts-and-Consoles?language=en_US

    "Cheating
    Doing or utilizing anything that gives the player a greater advantage than is intended for normal gameplay."

    If it was not possible, Sony would not be banning people for doing it, or even have it listed as a reason to get banned. 


    My understanding is, the very second you modify any firmware the system will not allow you to connect online.

    The link you shared is basically saying you will be banned for modifying anything on the system.

    This is not proof of people in game cheating. You cannot get online or in game with modified systems. Yes people can try, but they will not be able to get in game for you to experience them cheating.

  • Raizurhk's avatar
    Raizurhk
    7 years ago

    I love when bad players have to ya bs excuses for why they lost.


  • @preyandplay wrote:

    I love when cheats try to defend other cheaters on the forum claiming that there are no cheaters or inventing hundreds of excuses.


    These are people who get flagged to be monitored closely.  From experience, they also tend to be the people who flake off in a months time. 

  • Silz616's avatar
    Silz616
    7 years ago

    @Jungle-Beard wrote:

    @preyandplay wrote:

    I love when cheats try to defend other cheaters on the forum claiming that there are no cheaters or inventing hundreds of excuses.


    These are people who get flagged to be monitored closely.  From experience, they also tend to be the people who flake off in a months time. 


    Well, just to let you know, I have a friend who installed a retro game emulator onto his PS4 so he could play old school games for a short while.

    He was advised that he should not connect to the internet while running the modded firmware as it would ban his console from PS+. This is an active tool that Sony uses to monitor consoles. The console is registered to you with your email which in turn is linked to your personal details.

    It's a completely different ball game to PC.

    In all my time on various games since owning a PS4, I have yet to encounter anything close to what I would describe as cheating. There have been games with exploits/loopholes, but they are nothing to do with end user loaded in software or "hacks".

    I've been killed by some players super quick but I've encountered plenty of lag, latency and desync's I understand that it is those, and not cheats that account for the odd "iffy" death.

    Monitor me all you want. I can assure you I'm definitely no cheater.

    If you think you spot a cheater on PS4 in your own game, save the video and post it here. I'd be curious to see what you are seeing.

  • Than by that defenition Practacing is cheating lol since it will make you hetter and give you a greater advatage over the untrained forum whinner

  • newname4504's avatar
    newname4504
    7 years ago

    @ThiccThighsxxx That makes no sense 😪 but it does make you sound sus. Since you're so trained, have you won any tournaments or gotten any decent ranks in any other fps games?Without using any script cheats. I'm curious why hearing about cheaters bugs you. It's an issue on many fps games. I don't mind getting out gunned legitimately or making a mistake.

    You're making the assumption again that I confused a cheater with someone that has 'good aim.'

    No one has locked aim on moving target's heads. Especially when they aren't out damaging me and are dying before me. If we're out of the hot zone and they aren't really carrying with low game sense with a 3k damage badge, I can be certain they're cheating. It's a no brainer. If they're way behind me, looting slowly with a 3k damage badge and a sketchy name, no brainer.

    Only certain on PC to be clear, everyone seems to be sure there's none on ps4